To all Jocks - can this be true ?

[DaveB]

That'd be duellin' pipes, ya heathen!

Followed by the Badmoon Rising Reel

[daviejones]

In America hillbilly was first attested only in 1898, which suggests a later, independent development."[2]

[RichardCranium]

EO, have you suddenly gone thick?

An American friend has just told me that the term 'hillbilly' is derived from the Scottish imigrants who settled in the mountains and were invariable called Billy.

Then WTF is this thread entitled "To all Jocks - can this be true ?" and not the logical "To all Billies - can this be true ?"?

[EternalOptimist]

That'd be duellin' pipes, ya heathen!

heh heh

good one

[Menelaus]

That'd be duellin' pipes, ya heathen!

[Incognito]

The quintessential rednecked sh*tkicking hillbilly gene pool. Pity they didn't take a few more of their "loyal brethren" with them to the colonies. Might have left Ireland in a better state!

Exactly, might not have had the exodus of all the 'plastics' to the west coast. Might have left Scotland in a better state!

[Incognito]

Scots-Irish immigrants of mainly Presbyterian origin

Snaw vs Minestrone - duelling banjos

Eh, naw, wrong denomination champ

[shaunbhoy]

These Protestant Irish colonists brought their cultural traditions with them when they immigrated. Many of their stories, songs, and ballads dealt with the history of their Ulster and Lowland Scot homelands, especially relating the tale of the Protestant King William III, Prince of Orange.

The quintessential rednecked sh*tkicking hillbilly gene pool. Pity they didn't take a few more of their "loyal brethren" with them to the colonies. Might have left Ireland in a better state!

[BlackenedBiker]

Squeal, little piggy, squeal...

Yup.

I read something similar to that...

You actually heard somebody say that!!!!!!! Were your pants around your ankles at the time????

[Pogle]

Squeal, little piggy, squeal...

Yup.

I read something similar to that...

[EternalOptimist]

Snaw vs Minestrone - duelling banjos


get yer ti ckets heeere

[daviejones]

Unlikely....Wiki has many possible origins of the word. 4 of which are below:

The term originated in 17th century Ireland for Protestant supporters of King William of Orange.[1] Roman Catholic King James II landed at Kinsale in Ireland in 1689 and began to raise a Catholic army in an attempt to regain the British throne. Protestant King William III, Prince of Orange, led an English counterforce into Ireland and defeated James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690. A significant portion of William III's army was composed of Protestants of Scottish descent (Planters) who had been settled on land confiscated from Catholics in Ulster, the northernmost of the four provinces of Ireland. The southern Irish Catholic supporters of James II referred to these northern Protestant supporters of King William as Billy Boys, Billy being an abbreviation of William. However, Michael Montgomery, in From Ulster to America: The Scotch-Irish Heritage of American English, states "In Ulster in recent years it has sometimes been supposed that it was coined to refer to followers of King William III and brought to America by early Ulster emigrants…, but this derivation is almost certainly incorrect… In America hillbilly was first attested only in 1898, which suggests a later, independent development."[2]
The term in the United States was conferred during the early 18th century by the occupying British soldiers as a carry over from the Irish term, in referring to Scots-Irish immigrants of mainly Presbyterian origin, dwelling in the frontier areas of the Appalachian Mountains.[citation needed] These Protestant Irish colonists brought their cultural traditions with them when they immigrated. Many of their stories, songs, and ballads dealt with the history of their Ulster and Lowland Scot homelands, especially relating the tale of the Protestant King William III, Prince of Orange.
Many of the settlers in the Appalachian mountains were of German origin and were named Wilhelm with the short form Willy, a common German name during that time. Those Wilhelms, who went by Bill or Billy, living in the Appalachian Mountains became known as hillbillies, that is Bills who lived in the hills.[citation needed]
The term emerged as a derogatory nickname given by the coastal plain-dwelling Southerners to the hill-dwelling settlers of Eastern Tennessee, Western Virginia (including modern West Virginia), and Eastern Kentucky, many of whom were ambivalent to the Confederacy during the American Civil War.[citation needed]

[EternalOptimist]

Remember the scene in the film Deliverance, commonly known as 'duelling banjos' with the strange inbred.
An American friend has just told me that the term 'hillbilly' is derived from the Scottish imigrants who settled in the mountains and were invariable called Billy*.

can this be true ?



*The same way we call Aussie birds Sheila.