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Previously on "Remembrance Day"

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Chico
    We can always count on an intelligent contribution in any discussion by the lefty God hating brigade. Thanks for valued thoughts ALM. What does ALM stand for by the way? Atheist Lefty Moron - perhaps!!
    Chico, you daft twat, it's not just lefties who are strongly opposed to 90 days internment without charge. I'm somewhere to the (libertarian) right of Ghengis Khan, and not a "God hater"; but I'd be more than happy to bring back the rack and thumbscrew, or modern equivalents, and the noose or worse, for anyone once _convicted_ of terrorist crimes. So please don't suggest I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

    Surely you must realize by now that the police and politicians abuse and extend the proper limits of every new power they acquire - Don't you recall some delegate being arrested under the terror laws at the Labour Conference just for being near the venue without his ID?

    It's not enough to say the police will use common sense, and the delegate in this example was at no risk of internment - You never know what crazy policies will be in effect in twenty or thirty years, and just the existence of internment powers, the fact that habeas corpus has been breached, would be a danger to us all.

    BTW, I don't extend this principle to those who the police have credible evidence are planning attacks with true WMDs, i.e. nukes or biological weapons, because given the likely casualties of such an attack the perp literally places themselves in a de-facto a state of war, and outside the Geneva convention, where the legal niceties don't apply.

    (I suppose the 9/11 attacks were in a grey area between, but verging on WMD in practice, and given that insurgents are fighting US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't have too much of a problem with Guantanamo Bay and similar internment centres.)

    But a conventional bomb on a bus, even a whole string of them day after day, however devastating for a few and disruptive to all, is not a WMD, and any politician who fails to make that clear distinction is a lying hound, deceitfully trying to blur definitions in classic "1984" style.

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by planetit
    Stop showing off Chico. It's possible to observe a silence without shouting about it.

    Not for Chico it isn't, he has to remind us all about how close to God he is... Unfortunately, he's not close enough!

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  • planetit
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    Stop showing off Chico. It's possible to observe a silence without shouting about it.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman
    A bit of decorum gentlemen.

    Leave this thread to the honoured dead. Take your arguments elsewhere!
    Agreed
    we should never forget

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  • Chico
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    2 minutes silence - almost 11AM on 11/11

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  • stackpole
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    Originally posted by threaded
    No, I think we should round 'em up and shoot them. A bullet is certainly cheaper than keeping them for 90 days. Save lots of expense for the Police as well: if they don't need to investigate then they won't need so much manpower, added advantage could be our taxes are reduced.
    Phoenix, I told you. Now look what you've done.

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  • threaded
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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Are you one of those smalll bunch of idiot Liberals who thinks we could stop all these terrorists by sitting down and having a chat about it?
    No, I think we should round 'em up and shoot them. A bullet is certainly cheaper than keeping them for 90 days. Save lots of expense for the Police as well: if they don't need to investigate then they won't need so much manpower, added advantage could be our taxes are reduced.

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  • The Lone Gunman
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    A bit of decorum gentlemen.

    Leave this thread to the honoured dead. Take your arguments elsewhere!

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  • Chico
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    Originally posted by ALM
    But detention of 90 days affects the rights everyday people as well as terrorists you dumbskull.
    We can always count on an intelligent contribution in any discussion by the lefty God hating brigade. Thanks for valued thoughts ALM. What does ALM stand for by the way? Atheist Lefty Moron - perhaps!!

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  • ALM
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    Originally posted by Chico
    It seems the irony is lost on you!! I guess the rights and the feelings of terrorists are more important than the right to life of everyone else.
    But detention for 90 days affects the rights of everyday people as well as terrorists you dumbskull.

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  • stackpole
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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Are you one of those smalll bunch of idiot Liberals who thinks we could stop all these terrorists by sitting down and having a chat about it?
    I don't get that impression from threaded's post.

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  • n5gooner
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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Are you one of those smalll bunch of idiot Liberals who thinks we could stop all these terrorists by sitting down and having a chat about it?

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by threaded
    Chico: But you fail to realise that the state is becoming the terrorist using the pretext of a very small bunch of lunatics.

    Are you one of those smalll bunch of idiot Liberals who thinks we could stop all these terrorists by sitting down and having a chat about it?

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  • threaded
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    Chico: But you fail to realise that the state is becoming the terrorist using the pretext of a very small bunch of lunatics.

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  • hyperD
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    No, seriously, it seems the irony is lost on you.

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