Reply to: McKinnon to be extradited

[EternalOptimist]

They do, though...

[Churchill]

If you put your porn in the window, people will look.

I dont get upset when birds ogle at me

They do, though...

[EternalOptimist]

McKinnon didn't just stand there and get warm, he broke in and hunted round for your porn stash!

If you put your porn in the window, people will look.

I dont get upset when birds ogle at me

[Churchill]

No, but if you leave your window open, you can't blame people standing there to get warm

McKinnon didn't just stand there and get warm, he broke in and hunted round for your porn stash!

[EternalOptimist]

If you leave your front door unlocked do you expect someone to come into your house and rifle through your personal things?

No, but if you leave your window open, you can't blame people standing there to get warm

[Churchill]

If you leave a system on the web unprotected then you can hardly get upset when someone enters that system.

There was an intent but then SKA has an intent to look at systems without owners permission.

Just because it reads port 80 rather than an a SSH port is incidental. The compter was left open and on the web.

If you leave your front door unlocked do you expect someone to come into your house and rifle through your personal things?

[AtW]

Oh sod it - I am running SKAnet on full data set and off to get a pint, better do it as well as you might not have another opportunity to do so...

[minestrone]

If you leave a system on the web unprotected then you can hardly get upset when someone enters that system.

There was an intent but then SKA has an intent to look at systems without owners permission.

Just because it reads port 80 rather than an a SSH port is incidental. The compter was left open and on the web.

[Tingles]

And I gave you answer already - if you believe we are in violation of any UK laws, then have your solicitors write to us and we'll deal with your query

Joseph McCarthy...

Are you or have you ever been a Communist?

[Pondlife]

Just killing time between running improved SKA tests on 0.1% of the full dataset, doing last run and if all good I'll start it on 100% of data and go get a pint or two...

I was in Turners just down the road from you the other week.

I'd recommend it for SKA's staff Christmas party.

[RichardCranium]

Have you the permission to read the web sites that you scrape?

I can now see what you are trying to do with this but it won't work. You are not considering 'intent'.

AtW has no intent to go breaking in to systems that should be secure. But his software probably will wander in to some inadvertently. As such, he is unlikely to be found guilty by a court.

Gary McKinnon did have intent to break into systems that should be secure, and did so. However, he did not have intent to sell what he found to terrorists nor set off nuclear weapons, nor destory defence systems. His intent was naïve snooping for aliens. As such, one would hope he would get his wrists slapped for being foolish.

If AtW inadvertently makes secrets available online - as Google maps sort of has done - he will be leant on VERY heavily to do something about it.

Gary McKinnon showed up the US Dept of Defence as incompetent twats and has now to be punished severely for making them look foolish.

It is the intent of the case that is significant and seems to be being disregarded by the paranoid and stupid-looking Americans, hence the objection to their paranoid vengence-seeking.

[AtW]

Just killing time between running improved SKA tests on 0.1% of the full dataset, doing last run and if all good I'll start it on 100% of data and go get a pint or two...

[Pondlife]

I'm simply asking one question, do you have the permission of the owners of the servers that you read data from?

It is not a hard question, well it seems it is, but really it can be answered with a word

So again...

do you have the permission of the owners of the servers that you read data from

And I gave you answer already - if you believe we are in violation of any UK laws, then have your solicitors write to us and we'll deal with your query

It's getting like PMQ in here.

[AtW]

I'm simply asking one question, do you have the permission of the owners of the servers that you read data from?

And I gave you answer already - if you believe we are in violation of any UK laws, then have your solicitors write to us and we'll deal with your query

[minestrone]

What we do is legal. If you think otherwise then please contact us in writing quoting relevant UK legislation that you believe we are breaking.

McKinnon's is pursued by USA who allege very specific laws that were broken.

I'm simply asking one question, do you have the permission of the owners of the servers that you read data from?

It is not a hard question, well it seems it is, but really it can be answered with a word

So again...

do you have the permission of the owners of the servers that you read data from