Then there's the dreaded "we need to know by Friday if you would like to continue to get 80% of your current rate or 0%".
Then there's the fact that accountants view all contractors as unjustifiable expense.
Then there's having to pay accountants to do very little whilst you are earning nothing.
Then there's having to deal with Ag***s (ptooey!)
Then there's that uneasy feeling you get when you push some sort of marginal purchase through the company books.
etc etc.
But, simple things come along now and then that just lighten up your life and make it seem like the choice was right for you. For me, the permies PD Appraisal time is always one of these times.
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Previously on "What Are The Risks Of Being A Contractor??"
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The biggest risk of being a contractor is the feeling of despair that rises as you read another load of CyberTory drivel.
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Aye Mace
Another excellent contribution from Mace - Ive read a few recently by Mace and Ive been very impressed by his posts.
Oh well - as to this whole 'game' of working - as the song said :
Get a job and fight to keep it,
Strike out to reach a mountain.
Be so nice on the outside
But inside keep ambition
Don't cry because you hunt them
Hurt them first they'll love you
There's a millionaire above you
And you're under his suspicion.
Or - as Bob Hope once said to a group of graduates :
'Heres what they didnt tell you at college - its a Jungle out there . My advice ? Don't go ... 'Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 23 July 2009, 15:20.
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View PostI think you will find if Employers want to get rid of you - they will get rid of you.
Its pretty easy.
Or make your life hell so you will leave - Ive seen every triick in the book.
The redundancy you mention is generally peanuts too .
Generally permiedom is safer in the bigger firms in the good times but then you can have entire departments laid off in the bad times. There are many reasons why you can be shown the door as a permie. Not fitting in, your skills no longer required, they've found somebody cheaper etc. In most cases, employers prefer to persuade somebody to leave e.g. overwork them, isolate them rather than lay them off as if they lay you off, other workers will worry that the same will happen to them, whilst if they bully you in to leaving, other workers will generally think up reasons as to why that guy was picked on. If you fit in and obey the rules i.e. don't moan too much, don't appear too ambitious, flatter your boss and put some hours (rather than effort in) then you can climb the greasy pole over a long time. Problems usually occur if your boss moves on and you get a new boss that you don't have such a great relationship with.
As a contractor, clients will have no qualms about giving you the chop whereas as a permie, they'll think a bit harder about it. Most senior roles are held by permies but you can get programme manager, project manager and interim management roles as a contractor.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostNo it isn't. If a perm has been there long enough to get perm rights (one, two years?), then the employer can't just give notice. There has to be a genuine reason to get rid of someone. If you're going to replace them, they have to have done something worthy of dismissal. If you're not going to replace them, then it must be redundancy.
I think you will find if Employers want to get rid of you - they will get rid of you.
Its pretty easy.
Or make your life hell so you will leave - Ive seen every triick in the book.
The redundancy you mention is generally peanuts too .
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Originally posted by weemster View PostIf you are LTD not sure you can claim dole.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostNo it isn't. If a perm has been there long enough to get perm rights (one, two years?), then the employer can't just give notice. There has to be a genuine reason to get rid of someone. If you're going to replace them, they have to have done something worthy of dismissal. If you're not going to replace them, then it must be redundancy.
Also, if it's public sector, it's a job for life with a fat pension at the end.
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The different risks result in different mindsets.
Contractors think more about skills, the client business and value for money.
Permies think more about the greasy pole, lunchtime, and their rights and benefits.
They've just promoted someone in my team. Everybody knows her performance is a long way short of warranting it, but they did it anyway to shut her up about wanting promotion. If I were a permie colleague I'd be p1ssed off, but as a contractor I just carry on doing my stuff.
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post...A 'perm' job is not permenant - it is a contract with an unspecified duration subject to a notice period from the employer ...
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Originally posted by snaw View PostOccasionally you mistakenly venture into a strange on-line world, populated by an odd assortment of squirrel botherers, Irish dominatrixes and chutney spoon lickers.
It's a terrible fate.
Where do I sign up?
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Originally posted by moorfield View PostPlus you have to suffer the tosh that is "development plans" and "appraisals"
-all just an excuse not to give you a bonus.
development manager' duing my appraisal starting going off on one
about his personal development and how he was in the wrong role etc Makes
me laugh when I look back, it was one of the things that helped me decide to
go contracting...............now what was the defence company called EDS.......or something......!?!??!
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Occasionally you mistakenly venture into a strange on-line world, populated by an odd assortment of squirrel botherers, Irish dominatrixes and chutney spoon lickers.
It's a terrible fate.
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