Reply to: DOn't want to get involved

[Not So Wise]

If you were an employee not a director what case do they have against you?
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First thing that occured to me.
If you were a contractor would say no way in hell should you sign anything but as an employee operating under instructions you would be a lot harder to sue directly

But this is really wrong place to ask, it's a contractor board after all

Consult a lawyer (god i seem to be saying that a lot lately)

[moorfield]

(hint: we nothing about this mystical land of permiedom on this site)

There do seem to be a growing number of permies on here recently. Shouldn't the mods be booting them off ??

[MPwannadecentincome]

If you were an employee not a director what case do they have against you?

Don't sign anything without legal advice, if you don't want legal advice then don't sign, if HR offer to pay for legal advice pick your own solicitor not theirs.

[RichardCranium]

Blimey. From one dodgy outfit to another.

I think ignoring the issue "I'm not getting involved" is possibly the worst course of action. It is equal to "I refuse to co-operate with my management".

I think your options are:

- "What's in it for me if I sign?"

- "I will do what you ask, but beware: I will only tell the truth and no money or pressure will make me lie for you."

- "I cannot possibly comment, I do not know enough about the situation as it was. Sorry. I'd love to help, but..."

Meanwhile:

Document everything that has happened to date.
Get photocopies or electronic copies of everything they want you to say / sign.
Do not walk.
Read up online on 'constructive dismissal'. There are some short, helpful guides out there.

[BrilloPad]

I'm working permie for the time being (sorry, I'm trying to end it jsut as soon as I can find another contract) and was working for a small consultancy that got bought out by a large consultancy. now the first company was a bit dodgy, but now the HR department are trying to get me to sign a statement about the status of certain employees. I have told them I don't want to get involved, as I'm sure they are preparing some sorf of legal case against the first company. The directors of the company are no longer working with us.

I'm just trying to stand firm and not signing it but they are starting to get very pushy on it. Any advice on how I can get them to leave me alone?

Keep replying no comment.

[The Lone Gunman]

Yeah I can't see any reason to walk. THe worst I can imagine is if I dont sign they will try to push me out, or threaten not to pay my bonus next month.

Have they given you a reason why they are asking you to sign something? Is it part of your job?
If you had no responsibility for the status of others then say so if they force you to make a statement.

[vetran]

Unfair / constructive dismissal Nirvana!

Don't get involved, get out to something new ASAP. (Yep I know its difficult but the fan is spinning & the brown stuff is in the air).

[JoJoGabor]

Yeah I can't see any reason to walk. THe worst I can imagine is if I dont sign they will try to push me out, or threaten not to pay my bonus next month.

[pzz76077]

Yes, but they run the risk of being on the wrong end of a couple of law suits, one from the current client who sounds a litigious type, and a potential counter suit.

Reading between the lines it sounds like the big consultancy didn't do their due diligence right and the key players walked.

Id still want to know whats my options are and what is in it for me first, walking from a paying job in this climate would not be high on my list of priorities just right now.

[JoJoGabor]

Yeah that's about right. The small company completely blagged the current company. Telling them the consulting team was bigger than it really was, to the extent of changing people's job descriptions and falsifying timesheets.

The original company deserve what's coming to them, but I dont want to be a part of it

[threaded]

No doubt, but invariably people work because they get paid amongst other reasons and who wouldn't want to get paid more??

PZZ

Yes, but they run the risk of being on the wrong end of a couple of law suits, one from the current client who sounds a litigious type, and a potential counter suit.

Reading between the lines it sounds like the big consultancy didn't do their due diligence right and the key players walked.

[pzz76077]

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

No doubt, but invariably people work because they get paid amongst other reasons and who wouldn't want to get paid more??

PZZ

[threaded]

I wouldnt walk just yet, until you know what your (money making) options are.

PZZ

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

[JoJoGabor]

Great - thanks for your advice. You've given me a good reason I can state to them why I am not signing.

[pzz76077]

Walk, now.

Make sure you've got an original of any document they wanted you to sign.

I wouldnt walk just yet, until you know what your (money making) options are.

PZZ