Reply to: AF447 broke up mid-air

[PM-Junkie]

Perhaps the FSM was a little too drunk and forgot to support the plane with his noodly appendages.

Great...we solved that one then.

Next?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Wow... you are such a Plonker. :smug

Coming from you.....etc

[Moscow Mule]

Nice to read a balanced post for a change.

I blame the Tories.

[FSM with Cheddar]

I was referring to the FlyingSpaghettiMonsterWithCheddar's post regarding helicopters being too ugly to fly.

Perhaps the FSM was a little too drunk and forgot to support the plane with his noodly appendages.

[Cyberman]

Cybertory was holding forth with his "expertise" on the basis of what he read in the paper. Ask a few people on your list how often a story in the paper about which they have some knowledge bears any relation to reality. I can't argue with what you say about the pitot tubes, but all 737s were checked for faulty wiring post-Kegworth. Press at the time reported suspicions of a fault, but none was found. The facts are that we (including CyberDork) don't know the cause and are unlikely to until the DFDR is found.

Wow... you are such a Plonker. :smug

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Unless the bloke who wrote the original story had expert advice of course.
Instead of just slagging him why dont you show us why you think he is wrong.
Do you know the safe working speed of this aircraft?

It is a well publicised fact that the pitot tubes on these aircraft are being replaced due to being faulty. Just google it if you dont believe me.
These are one of the indicators of air speed used by the control computer and the crew to control the plane.
At the altitudes we are talking about the aircraft has a limited operational capability
The aircraft is designed to fly. Not glide, not fall, fly.

He may be wrong, but he has proposed a theory. Telling him he is an arse is not disproving that theory.

I am not claiming to be an expert. Airbus is not one of my fields of expertise. I have been in the avionics industry for over ten years and some of the people on my email list who are discussing this do work in precisely this field. Jet engine control systems, cockpit information systems and flight controls.

Cybertory was holding forth with his "expertise" on the basis of what he read in the paper. Ask a few people on your list how often a story in the paper about which they have some knowledge bears any relation to reality. I can't argue with what you say about the pitot tubes, but all 737s were checked for faulty wiring post-Kegworth. Press at the time reported suspicions of a fault, but none was found. The facts are that we (including CyberDork) don't know the cause and are unlikely to until the DFDR is found.

[Churchill]

So...logically....the fact that this plane apparently crashed....means.....it didn't have any wings? Isn't that a bit dangerous?

I was referring to the FlyingSpaghettiMonsterWithCheddar's post regarding helicopters being too ugly to fly.

[Doggy Styles]

Unless the bloke who wrote the original story had expert advice of course.
Instead of just slagging him why dont you show us why you think he is wrong?
Do you know the safe working speed of this aircraft?

It is a well publicised fact that the pitot tubes on these aircraft are being replaced due to being faulty. Just google it if you dont believe me.
These are one of the indicators of air speed used by the control computer and the crew to control the plane.
At the altitudes we are talking about the aircraft has a limited operational capability
The aircraft is designed to fly. Not glide, not fall, fly.

He may be wrong, but he has proposed a theory. Telling him he is an arse is not disproving that theory.

I am not claiming to be an expert. Airbus is not one of my fields of expertise. I have been in the avionics industry for over ten years and some of the people on my email list who are discussing this do work in precisely this field. Jet engine control systems, cockpit information systems and flight controls.

In answer to your question, that's the nature of the beast you are responding to.

As for the rest, WHS

[PM-Junkie]

Ah, a student of the "If it looks right, it'll fly right!" school of aeronautics, welcome to the forum!

So...logically....the fact that this plane apparently crashed....means.....it didn't have any wings? Isn't that a bit dangerous?

[Advocate]

Those magnificent men...

I thought that the aerofoil shape only contributed to an aircrafts lift (i.e. it's an efficient wing) but a non-aerofoil shaped wing (or an upside-down wing) still had lift due to the aforementioned angle of attack but was just inefficient.

[Cyberman]

Unless the bloke who wrote the original story had expert advice of course.
Instead of just slagging him why dont you show us why you think he is wrong.
Do you know the safe working speed of this aircraft?

It is a well publicised fact that the pitot tubes on these aircraft are being replaced due to being faulty. Just google it if you dont believe me.
These are one of the indicators of air speed used by the control computer and the crew to control the plane.
At the altitudes we are talking about the aircraft has a limited operational capability
The aircraft is designed to fly. Not glide, not fall, fly.

He may be wrong, but he has proposed a theory. Telling him he is an arse is not disproving that theory.

I am not claiming to be an expert. Airbus is not one of my fields of expertise. I have been in the avionics industry for over ten years and some of the people on my email list who are discussing this do work in precisely this field. Jet engine control systems, cockpit information systems and flight controls.

Nice to read a balanced post for a change.

[Fred Bloggs]

It cant for long, but the angle of attack gives a wing like lift effect.

I believe you're right!

[The Lone Gunman]

If an aircraft wing creates lift to fly, then how can an aircraft fly upside down?

It cant for long, but the angle of attack gives a wing like lift effect.

[Fred Bloggs]

If an aircraft wing creates lift to fly, then how can an aircraft fly upside down?

[FSM with Cheddar]

thats rich from a flying spaghetti monster

gravity

bah