Reply to: When your number is up it is up.

[Stan.goodvibes]

A similar thing happened to a cousin of mine, he was a cook on a train Dublin to Cork when he swapped shifts with another cook. Train crashed and the cook was killed, one year later he was asked to change shifts, train crashed and he was killed. When your time is up

OK I'm confused. So his time was up the first time when he escaped death, or the second time when he didn't?

And if your time is up, but you can still live an extra year, what is the minimum length of time you have to live for *after* you escape death so that when you eventually do die, people don't make the 'when your time is up' comment?

[threaded]

Which bit do you mean? I would have thought that



was a pretty clear demonstration of cause and effect

The one where someone manages to escape an accident and then some other accident gets them, and one says 'oh their time was up'.

It is much like buying a lottery ticket, losing, and then next week buying another ticket because you think you stand a better chance of winning this time because you didn't win last time, 'so it must be my turn', whereas the odds are exactly the same each time.

[Cyberman]

Plus it's easy to believe an event is extraordinary after the event. I could roll a die 10 times and get : 2,2,4,2,6,5,2,1,3,1 (or any other sequence) and say that the odds of that happening are millions to 1.

One thing that definitely can't be explained by any rational means though are T-junctions. Where you would prefer not to slow down too much or use a gear lower than 2nd to negotiate it, a car will be coming in the opposite direction at the exact wrong time and another car will not come down that road for about a month. Okay, I exaggerate a little, but it is infuriating.

One day, all cars will have radar and we will not have to suffer this annoying situation.

[Sysman]

One thing that definitely can't be explained by any rational means though are T-junctions. Where you would prefer not to slow down too much or use a gear lower than 2nd to negotiate it, a car will be coming in the opposite direction at the exact wrong time and another car will not come down that road for about a month. Okay, I exaggerate a little, but it is infuriating.

Or on a long straight road with hardly any traffic. When you come across something slow ahead, another vehicle coming in the opposite direction will appear, going at precisely the right speed so that you have to slow down before overtaking the slow vehicle ahead of you.

You can speed up or slow down to try and avoid it; if you do it'll be to no avail.

There could be something in the subconscious here.

[NickFitz]

Sorry, but that is a fallacy. Confusing Cause and Effect is quite a common fallacy.

Which bit do you mean? I would have thought that

...Ms Ganthaler died when their car veered across a road in Kufstein, Austria, and swerved into an oncoming truck

was a pretty clear demonstration of cause and effect

[threaded]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6479203.ece

Woman who missed Flight 447 is killed in car crash

An Italian woman who arrived late for the Air France plane flight that crashed in the Atlantic last week has been killed in a car accident.

Johanna Ganthaler, a pensioner from Bolzano-Bozen province, had been on holiday in Brazil with her husband Kurt and missed Air France Flight 447 after turning up late at Rio de Janeiro airport on May 31.

All 228 people aboard lost their lives after the plane crashed into the Atlantic four hours into its flight to Paris.

The ANSA news agency reported that the couple had managed to pick up a flight from Rio the following day.

It said that Ms Ganthaler died when their car veered across a road in Kufstein, Austria, and swerved into an oncoming truck. Her husband was seriously injured.

Sorry, but that is a fallacy. Confusing Cause and Effect is quite a common fallacy.

[Sysman]

The odds against that are astonishingly improbable.

EDIT: Unless there's a massive conspiracy theory and NWO (etc) are going after everyone who was on the flight or supposed to be.

There's a good spy thriller in that plot, just waiting to be written.

[shelby68]

Speaking of planes and doom, does anyone else here find that as they et older you become more terrified on flying?

Everything week now I get on those flying machinea I hold my breath at take off and landing...

I know what you mean I keep think of that line from Fight Club "On a long enough timeline. The survival rate for everyone drops to zero"

I was flying to Aberdeen on a prop engined plane for a month earlier this year and the sight of two 20ft steel mincers rotating at 20,000rpm 10 inches from my head didn't exactly allay my fears.

[NickFitz]

Plus it's easy to believe an event is extraordinary after the event. I could roll a die 10 times and get : 2,2,4,2,6,5,2,1,3,1 (or any other sequence) and say that the odds of that happening are millions to 1.

As the odds were so great, it was an extraordinary event; it's just that extraordinary - or at least highly unlikely - events happen all the time.

Next time you're on the motorway, pick out another (UK-registered) vehicle at random. As there are about 35 million vehicles registered in the UK, the chance of you seeing that particular one is twice as unlikely as you winning the National Lottery jackpot - must be your lucky day!

[TimberWolf]

I dont believe in your time being up at all - it's probably more likely to be psychological effects.

For example, if you are being followed by a police car, you're more likely to do something stupid.

If you are being watched while typing, you're more likely to make a mistake.

If you've just dodged death in quite a spectacular way, I reckon you'd be very superstitious and be "looking" for death. You'd be on edge, and it'd probably be more likely that you'd be in an accident. Do yous not think?

AP's example is very wierd though - the odds of that are quite extrodinary!!

Plus it's easy to believe an event is extraordinary after the event. I could roll a die 10 times and get : 2,2,4,2,6,5,2,1,3,1 (or any other sequence) and say that the odds of that happening are millions to 1.

One thing that definitely can't be explained by any rational means though are T-junctions. Where you would prefer not to slow down too much or use a gear lower than 2nd to negotiate it, a car will be coming in the opposite direction at the exact wrong time and another car will not come down that road for about a month. Okay, I exaggerate a little, but it is infuriating.

[Grinder]

Maybe she was the real target of the airplane crash - or maybe the husband was - having survived both, I would say if he has a further "accident" that confirms my conspiracy theory. What will be next? Chicken bone stuck in his throat?

[Menelaus]

The odds against that are astonishingly improbable.

EDIT: Unless there's a massive conspiracy theory and NWO (etc) are going after everyone who was on the flight or supposed to be.

[Amiga500]

Nope.

Make a plan, so if you're able you can get out. If you're not able, accept your mortality...

Parachute and claw hammer?

[Churchill]

Looks like the NWO/Bilderburgers/Common Purpose finaly got her.

I don't think my lot were involved in that one.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Looks like the NWO/Bilderburgers/Common Purpose finaly got her.