Reply to: 100% May Well Be Untrue FACTS About the BNP

[Alf W]

I'm looking forward to next week's debate on "Can we really be sure that Al Qaeda don't like the Americans?"

[minestrone]

[QUOTE=sasguru;862162]

Churchill and LG?
Yes, everyone knows the fascist parties always attract the closet gay boys.
They like the uniforms and "brotherly bonding",

goat

[sasguru]

[QUOTE=minestrone;862156]

Maybe you 2 should get together.

Churchill and LG?
Yes, everyone knows the fascist parties always attract the closet gay boys.
They like the uniforms and "brotherly bonding",

[The Lone Gunman]

OK OK you win. The BNP are not racist. Now you can vote for them with an easy conscience, OK?

No, you seem to have it all wrong. I think they are racist I have said so a number of times including in my original post to this thread, I just cant quite seem to pin down why I think that.
I just do not buy into the propaganda that abounds about them and was hoping to have a discussion based on what we (as CUKers) know as opposed to what we are fed by outside groups such as stop the BNP.

[minestrone]

[QUOTE=sasguru;862155]

Haven't got laid recently, eh?
Never mind have a few beers and relax.

Maybe you 2 should get together.

[sasguru]

[QUOTE=The Lone Gunman;862153]

Well I assumed that as you were so quick to point out the BNPs record of hate that you would have also pointed out other groups record of hate.

Haven't got laid recently, eh?
Never mind have a few beers and relax.

[The Lone Gunman]

[QUOTE=lilelvis2000;862141]

Where did I say that? Basically I didn't sucker for your bit of islam-so-bad and suddenly I'm a supporter! Suggest you stay off the vodka!

Anyway - off to beat the crowd at ASDA...cheerio everyone.

Well I assumed that as you were so quick to point out the BNPs record of hate that you would have also pointed out other groups record of hate.

[sasguru]

Why is that racist? Is it not positive discrimination?
Why shouldn't an organisation that wishes support an ethnic group not limit its membership to an ethnic group?

OK OK you win. The BNP are not racist. Now you can vote for them with an easy conscience, OK?

[minestrone]

I asked you to explain so that I could understand what you thought.

Btw, for the record I think you're wrong.

If you have racist tendencies then you are racist, no two ways about it.

OK then, the BNP voters are tree huggin' lesbos.

[The Lone Gunman]

This is from the BNP constitution - 9th edition from 2005, which is current as far as I know:




Now there's a racist policy for you in a pretty fundamental area.

(also at http://bnp.org.uk/Constitution 9th Ed Sep 2005.pdf)

Why is that racist? Is it not positive discrimination?
Why shouldn't an organisation that wishes support an ethnic group not limit its membership to an ethnic group?

[lilelvis2000]

[QUOTE=The Lone Gunman;862128]

The point is that you seem to be up in arms about the BNP distribute hate literature but seem quite happy to allow the Muslims to do so.I am suggesting that you have double standards and are yourself prejudiced in some way.


Damn, I didnt want this to be a debate about Islam.

Where did I say that? Basically I didn't sucker for your bit of islam-so-bad and suddenly I'm a supporter! Suggest you stay off the vodka!

Anyway - off to beat the crowd at ASDA...cheerio everyone.

[thunderlizard]

The BNP is indeed racist

This is from the BNP constitution - 9th edition from 2005, which is current as far as I know:

SECTION 2: MEMBERSHIP
1) The British National Party represents the collective National, Environmental, Political,
Racial, Folkish, Social, Cultural, Religious and Economic interests of the indigenous
Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Norse folk communities of Britain and those we regard as
closely related and ethnically assimilated or assimilable aboriginal members of the
European race also resident in Britain. Membership of the BNP is strictly defined
within the terms of, and our members also self define themselves within, the legal
ambit of a defined ‘racial group’ this being ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ and defined ‘ethnic
groups’ emanating from that Race as specified in law in the House of Lords case of
Mandla V Dowell Lee (1983) 1 ALL ER 1062, HL.
2) The indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous
Caucasian’ consist of members of: i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community; ii) The Celtic
Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The
Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic
Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The
Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The
Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic
groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.
3) Membership of the party shall be open only to those who are 16 years of age or over
and whose ethnic origin is listed within Sub-section 2

Now there's a racist policy for you in a pretty fundamental area.

(also at http://bnp.org.uk/Constitution 9th Ed Sep 2005.pdf)

[Churchill]

[QUOTE=sasguru;862131]

Where has the OP stated or even suggested this? Are you and Churchill posting dfrom the pub? Because either you're pissed or you're thick.

I thought you'd gone.

[Churchill]

So you now understand what racist tendencies mean?

You ask me to explain it to you a few pages ago.

I asked you to explain so that I could understand what you thought.

Btw, for the record I think you're wrong.

If you have racist tendencies then you are racist, no two ways about it.

[sasguru]

[QUOTE=The Lone Gunman;862128]

but seem quite happy to allow the Muslims to do so.I am suggesting that you have double standards and are yourself prejudiced in some way.


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Where has the OP stated or even suggested this? Are you and Churchill posting dfrom the pub? Because either you're pissed or you're thick.