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Previously on "Treated like a permie"

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    So, how much are you willing to pay...?
    Well it was percentage based......

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  • NotAllThere
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    So, how much are you willing to pay...?

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Quite easy though. "So, what do you want me to write?".
    Not in those exact words, but close

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
    That must have led to an interesting conversation.

    I've been asked to do appraisals and objectives for permie team members in the past, it's a comical situation.
    Quite easy though. "So, what do you want me to write?".

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    At clientco they have tried to give me an appraisal and objectives
    That must have led to an interesting conversation.

    I've been asked to do appraisals and objectives for permie team members in the past, it's a comical situation.

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  • tino
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    At clientco they have tried to give me an appraisal and objectives

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  • BrilloPad
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    At clientco they have tried to give me an appraisal and objectives

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by Zippy View Post
    Every job I've done (bar two) I've been treated this way. It's a control thing and can be quite frustrating, but they are the customer and if they don't want to get their money's worth it's their choice.
    I did approach the head of department and said I was being under utilised. He said he was keen to get more out of me. Again these things need to come from the top.

    I have a reasonable level of respect from the main bunch. There is just one awkward one with a chip on her shoulder. She is like this with the other contractors so I try not to take it too personally. I do think that she would put the knife in given the chance though.

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  • Zippy
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    Every job I've done (bar two) I've been treated this way. It's a control thing and can be quite frustrating, but they are the customer and if they don't want to get their money's worth it's their choice.

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    Get rid of your delusions and get the job done.

    Simples.
    Delusional, do you have the first idea who you are talking to!!!!!!!!

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    In this current gig, I am providing BA and system architecture services. Everyone seems to get it. One of the senior BAs keeps talking to me like I am a code monkey. It's water off a ducks back to me, and I find it amusing as I can keep chucking advanced concepts into the conversation to completely throw her.

    Do others ever get treated as just the next code chump, when they have so much more to offer? Does this concern you? What ways do you deal with this?

    And, do you try and differentiate yourself from the perms, but say offering bug tracking services? I have a bug tracking system I use, and ClientCo is still using etch-sketchers, I have tried to get them to adopt a formal approach but not getting anywhere. I am sorely tempted to empty the spreadsheets into my database and use this loud and proud at any review meetings.

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    Get rid of your delusions and get the job done.

    Simples.

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  • tino
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    They're bored of me telling them.
    I have had it in the past, just be careful.

    IMO I would use your bug tracking system to hopefully convert them and at least then you will have brought something tangible to the business rather than just being an arse on a chair

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by tino View Post
    Ir35
    They're bored of me telling them.

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  • tino
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    Ir35

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  • suityou01
    started a topic Treated like a permie

    Treated like a permie

    In this current gig, I am providing BA and system architecture services. Everyone seems to get it. One of the senior BAs keeps talking to me like I am a code monkey. It's water off a ducks back to me, and I find it amusing as I can keep chucking advanced concepts into the conversation to completely throw her.

    Do others ever get treated as just the next code chump, when they have so much more to offer? Does this concern you? What ways do you deal with this?

    And, do you try and differentiate yourself from the perms, but say offering bug tracking services? I have a bug tracking system I use, and ClientCo is still using etch-sketchers, I have tried to get them to adopt a formal approach but not getting anywhere. I am sorely tempted to empty the spreadsheets into my database and use this loud and proud at any review meetings.

    To the panel.

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