Reply to: 2 agents, 1 role

[Ardesco]

Not quite. You need to be pure evil for that.

and you know I'm not how.....

[Rookie]

Maybe I missed my true calling, time to set up an Agency perhaps.....

Not quite. You need to be pure evil for that.

[Ardesco]

cynical - i like it

Maybe I missed my true calling, time to set up an Agency perhaps.....

[tino]

No, that's assuming Agent 2 has already found somebody suitable and they are now pulling in as many CV's of everyone else and offering them the world to reduce competition for the preferred applicant because they know that other agencies are recruiting for the same role (and yes they will know about other agencies pimping the same job).

They don't have to know that another agent has contacted you to start playing silly buggers, if you are a good fit for the job they will assume that in all likelihood you will be contacted soon if you have not been contacted already, the objective is to get you off the market.

cynical - i like it

[badger7579]

MMmmm a good point. I guess I'll just have to take them at their word. They seem genuine and I have been put forward for other roles with the same agent in the past and got interviews.

[Ardesco]

Second may just be trying to get your CV off the market while they pimp their No.1 choice to end client and offering you a much higher rate to get you to withdraw your CV from the first lot.

Thats assuming that the 2nd agent knows about agent 1, which they dont at the moment.

No, that's assuming Agent 2 has already found somebody suitable and they are now pulling in as many CV's of everyone else and offering them the world to reduce competition for the preferred applicant because they know that other agencies are recruiting for the same role (and yes they will know about other agencies pimping the same job).

They don't have to know that another agent has contacted you to start playing silly buggers, if you are a good fit for the job they will assume that in all likelihood you will be contacted soon if you have not been contacted already, the objective is to get you off the market.

[BrianSnail]

As ever, it depends on the market, but if the clients wants you then there is always room for negotiation. You cannot always know what the work entails until you are sat face to face with the client and you understand their requirements.

Why not try and increase your rate if you think that, for instance, you will be working longer hours or your role carries more responsibility than you originally thought? At the end of the day the client can always say decline and stick to the original rate. Isn't rate negotation a key requirement if you operate business?

Each to their own but I've managed to up my rate on a few contracts after meeting the ClientCo.

WHS. I always inform the agent I am happy with the rate pending the final contract. What if the final contract would put you inside IR35, or the client wants you to work three days a week in Timbuktu?!

[Rookie]

Not always. I`ve just had to do a kind of sealed/blind bid approach. Once done no further negotiating can take place if offered the contract, so if I`m too expensive they simply will not even read my CV

If an agent puts you forward at a rate you mentioned I don`t think it`s a good idea to negotiate that figure upwards if offered the postion although the client might want to try and negotiate it downwards.

As ever, it depends on the market, but if the clients wants you then there is always room for negotiation. You cannot always know what the work entails until you are sat face to face with the client and you understand their requirements.

Why not try and increase your rate if you think that, for instance, you will be working longer hours or your role carries more responsibility than you originally thought? At the end of the day the client can always say decline and stick to the original rate. Isn't rate negotation a key requirement if you operate business?

Each to their own but I've managed to up my rate on a few contracts after meeting the ClientCo.

[tino]

I googlefighted it. 1st agent vs 2nd agent. The 2nd agent just wins.

[NotAllThere]

I googlefighted it. 1st agent vs 2nd agent. The 2nd agent just wins.

[SuperZ]

Not really. You still have room to negotiate once you have been offered the contract.

Not always. I`ve just had to do a kind of sealed/blind bid approach. Once done no further negotiating can take place if offered the contract, so if I`m too expensive they simply will not even read my CV

If an agent puts you forward at a rate you mentioned I don`t think it`s a good idea to negotiate that figure upwards if offered the postion although the client might want to try and negotiate it downwards.

[badger7579]

Dissapointed

[tino]

Ok, Have told agent 1 that I dont want to be put forward for the role and gone with agent 2.

I think thats fair. I've not tried to play one off against the other

What was their response?

[badger7579]

Ok, Have told agent 1 that I dont want to be put forward for the role and gone with agent 2.

I think thats fair. I've not tried to play one off against the other

[badger7579]

[QUOTE=Ardesco;827888]Second may just be trying to get your CV off the market while they pimp their No.1 choice to end client and offering you a much higher rate to get you to withdraw your CV from the first lot.

Thats assuming that the 2nd agent knows about agent 1, which they dont at the moment.