Reply to: Social Services haven't learned

[Moose423956]

Had quite a long chat with the grandad today, and he ran through a whole list of things that had happened, any one of which would make you think the mum and step-dad are not suitable to raise the children. For example:

. the step-dad being caught selling drugs from his car....with the kids in the back.
. armed police being called to their flat, and the step-dad trying to escape by climbing onto the roof.
. the step-dad spending most of his adult life in prison.
. the mum having bruises on her face when social services called to assess them.
. people breaking into their flat and holding the step-dad at knife point, while the kids were asleep in their bedroom.
. the step-dad threatening some of the mums at the school where the girls will be going.
. the social worker who wrote the report being a trainee.
. the social services report containing the words "serial offender", "violent", "drugs", but saying the care they will receive will be "good enough".
. the step-dad losing it outside the courtroom because he wasn't allowed in, and having to be restrained.

What's happening here is totally shocking, unbelieveable, disgraceful. A tragedy waiting to happen.

I feel like I want to do something. What can I do? Should I get involved?

[Cyberman]

The voters get the society they deserve. I would never vote for a government that effectively legalised drugs, as they did with cannabis, or treated all relationships on a par with marriage, and allowed homosexuals to adopt in preference to the grandparents of the child. Is it any wonder that our society is in a mess.

[NotAllThere]

The assumption that children are better off with their parents is wrong. As is the assumption that children are better off with their mother...

It's ok - the government has a new assumption, which fits in nicely with their baseline stalinistic approach. "Children are better off being looked after by the state".

Every few years the same headlines come around. "Social services need urgent reform". But nothing changes.

[thelace]

Used to work with a real tough nut. His dad was jailed for abusing both him and his kid sister. When he was let out of jail, Social Services housed his dad next door

He went straight to Social Services and told them to move him or he would kill his dad.

They didn't!

He did!

And now he's banged away for life...

[AtW]

Marriage should come with standard contract that both sides sign and if they don't then default legal contract is in force that will deal with all such issues.

If I was running these things I'd put an end to problems caused by divorces

[BrilloPad]

Perhaps having this conversation recorded would have helped? Not admissible in court but can be enough to ruin reputation of the accuser and deter them from using such false accusations.

If she knew you were abusing the kids and did not report it in time then she is complicit in this abuse, a bit of a crazy strategy to follow...

Its a good point : and later I did start recording all conversations. I still have the one of her offering to give up the kids.

Amazing how many women make allegations then decide they need a babysitter for the weekend and hand the kids over to the alledged perpetrator!

Did I tell you about the woman who wanted to stop her ex seeing the kids so kept breastfeeding the kids : although they were 4.5 years old!!!!!

Its all in the past for me now.

[AtW]

I got that threat too : in the case of my ex she threatened to say I was abusing the kids.

Perhaps having this conversation recorded would have helped? Not admissible in court but can be enough to ruin reputation of the accuser and deter them from using such false accusations.

If she knew you were abusing the kids and did not report it in time then she is complicit in this abuse, a bit of a crazy strategy to follow...

[jmo21]

so it's more common than I thought then.

My flabber was well and truly gasted when he told me that story.

[cailin maith]

I got that threat too : in the case of my ex she threatened to say I was abusing the kids.

Thats exactly whats happened to my friend... but she has dropped the allegations now. Although the police were obliged to look into it Really really horrible - those poor kids.

[BrilloPad]

that's depressing.

Guy I know, when he was splitting up with his now ex-wife, she threatened to tell the police he hit her and the kids.

Said she wouldn't if he signed over the house. He ended up doing it too.

I got that threat too : in the case of my ex she threatened to say I was abusing the kids.

[tino]

that's depressing.

Guy I know, when he was splitting up with his now ex-wife, she threatened to tell the police he hit her and the kids.

Said she wouldn't if he signed over the house. He ended up doing it too.

I would have hit her for that nonsense

[jmo21]

that's depressing.

Guy I know, when he was splitting up with his now ex-wife, she threatened to tell the police he hit her and the kids.

Said she wouldn't if he signed over the house. He ended up doing it too.

[Moose423956]

I could weep

You know what? So could I. Very few things upset me, but this certainly has.

[cailin maith]

Women - snakes with tits

My friends ex certainly is!! Crazy bint.... I swear if I ever bump into her, I will lamp her!

The assumption that children are better off with their parents is wrong. As is the assumption that children are better off with their mother.

These stories appal me because the children will be further damaged while social services get to tick a box.

I could weep

Me too

[Platypus]

The assumption that children are better off with their parents is wrong. As is the assumption that children are better off with their mother.

These stories appal me because the children will be further damaged while social services get to tick a box.

I could weep