Reply to: Time to take house off of the market ?

[bodnobal]

Cyberman, post your thread over on HPC you'll get a much more sympathetic response.

[max]

There is. You can DIY (search DIY HIP), the only part that you can't do yourself and didn't need before HIPs is the Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) which you can get for a milder rip-off, £55 or so.

but what about the feckless like cyberman, who can't be bothered, so they end up expecting to pay for the Ferrari of HIPS, and using it as an excuse to incorrectly price their assets. If only they could take advantage of this HIPS replacement. They can't wait for a another fool to buy the house they own, forever you know!

<smiley face with silly grin...me eejit/>

[expat]

There should be a market for budget HIPs, a Ryan Air of Home Information Packs, cheapest of everything. Written by Albanian temps and printed on paper that makes school loo roll look quality.

I feel a plan b coming on...!

There is. You can DIY (search DIY HIP), the only part that you can't do yourself and didn't need before HIPs is the Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) which you can get for a milder rip-off, £55 or so.

[swamp]

There should be a market for budget HIPs, a Ryan Air of Home Information Packs, cheapest of everything. Written by Albanian temps and printed on paper that makes school loo roll look quality.

I feel a plan b coming on...!

[d000hg]

HIPS cost up to 1K including VAT

Wow, isn't it a fixed price + local authority charges? We ordered one on Friday to beat the new rules so we hadn't much choice, took one for £400 since otherwise we have to wait a month before the house can be marketed. £1000 is kind of pricey

[swamp]

No.... most of those have already been removed from the market and will not return until HIPS are abolished and the market picks up.

their owners need to sell

[Cyberman]

Your assuming that 20% of the houses on the market today are in need of HiPS as like yours they've been on the market for 2 years

No.... most of those have already been removed from the market and will not return until HIPS are abolished and the market picks up.

[Sockpuppet]

Before HIPS came in Estate Agents were saying that this would remove 20% of houses from the market due to the fact that many people like myself market a house not necessarily expecting a sale, but just in case some fool comes along with pots of money to spend.

If 20% of houses are removed from the market that does create a shortage and will certainly not push prices down. The bottom line though is that all this red tape is hurting the market and also Gordon's tax-take, but he is either too stubborn or thick to realise this.

Your assuming that 20% of the houses on the market today are in need of HiPS as like yours they've been on the market for 2 years

[max]

HIPS cost up to 1K including VAT

Is that what they are charging you? You pay the maximum?

Why do you care..just up the asking price.... as you said:

but just in case some fool comes along with pots of money to spend.

Money is not the issue...just the intelligence of the counter party.


<some stupid smilely />

Oh...it looks like I can't do that

[Cyberman]

How much does a HIPS cost? How much are you asking for your house?

Any extra cost of selling a house and inconvenience of extra red tape will adversely affect the market. Only a stupid Labour HMG would believe otherwise.

HIPS cost up to 1K including VAT, and are regarded by most parties to a house sale as a complete waste of time and effort. So what is the point of them apart from being yet another stealth tax by discredited socialist MPs that don't even have the honesty to pay taxes themselves !!

[expat]

Before HIPS came in Estate Agents were saying that this would remove 20% of houses from the market due to the fact that many people like myself market a house not necessarily expecting a sale, but just in case some fool comes along with pots of money to spend.

If 20% of houses are removed from the market that does create a shortage and will certainly not push prices down. The bottom line though is that all this red tape is hurting the market and also Gordon's tax-take, but he is either too stubborn or thick to realise this.

Oh FFS!

If 20% of houses are priced way above market, "removing them from the market" does not create a shortage. The market is the buying and selling, and those overpriced houses were not taking part in that.

Even if by "the market" you mean all those houses advertised for sale, then removing the top overpriced 20% will actually bring average prices down.

[max]

No, but perhaps the HMG stealth tax of HIPS has.

How much does a HIPS cost? How much are you asking for your house?

[OwlHoot]

Before HIPS came in Estate Agents were saying that this would remove 20% of houses from the market due to the fact that many people like myself market a house not necessarily expecting a sale, but just in case some fool comes along with pots of money to spend.

If 20% of houses are removed from the market that does create a shortage and will certainly not push prices down. The bottom line though is that all this red tape is hurting the market and also Gordon's tax-take, but he is either too stubborn or thick to realise this.

Maybe the Government has persisted with HIPS for exactly that reason - to reduce the number of properties on the market and thus keep prices artificially up due to the resulting shortage of supply.

Nah, stupid idea. They're not smart enough to be that devious.

In any case, we all know exactly why they have insisted, with lunatic obstinacy, on keeping HIPS - The EU says they must, for the energy certificate, and what the EU ordains this government obeys, like a trained poodle eagerly jumping through hoops!

[BrilloPad]

No, but perhaps the HMG stealth tax of HIPS has.

So if not for HIPS the house value would have gone up?

[Cyberman]

Are you actually saying the credit crunch has finally caught up with Cybertoryshire?

No, but perhaps the HMG stealth tax of HIPS has.