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Previously on "How to fix the monarchy"

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  • BrowneIssue
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    Originally posted by threaded View Post
    ... don't let ... accuracy get in the way of a good rant.


    Sums up forums in general, really, dunnit?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    I have a question. Did any of the authors of the "New Testament" even meet Jesus?
    I dont believe they did. I am positive that the author of the gospel of Matthew was not the apostle Matthew.

    I think the earliest gospel was written abot 50 years after Jesus died?

    It all adds to the requirement for faith!

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  • threaded
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    Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
    Ooh, it's like Saudi Arabia, innit. You can't go round with bare arms there, either.

    Given the history of the Sikhs, I shouldn't worry one little bit about them being a threat to us in Britain. And tarring them with the 'all Asians are terrorists' is even more offensive than usual.

    I know generalising is dangerous, but there are not many races that can say they have earned the right to be in England. Since the Normans there's been the Vikings / Danes (by conquest or purchase); the Scots, Welsh and Irish (who stood there in red coats and died for us); the Poles earned their place here (in WWII dying in our merchant ships and aircraft); the ANZACs (who stopped the German machine gun bullets for no good reason for us); and the Sikhs allowed us to keep the Jewel in the Crown and, therefore, the Empire. There are others, but you should get the point.

    And if there's to be a punch up between anyone and the Sikhs, I'll be standing behind the Sikhs, holding their coats.
    Danes/Vikings were before the Normans, King Canute of England was aka King Knud of Denmark, and a large section of his army used in the siege of London were Polish, but don't let historical accuracy get in the way of a good rant.

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    That's a load of crap. I actually live a life heavily involved with my church and my direct experiences refute your argument. My church exists only because the people who founded it are keen on that Jesus guy, and because other people liked the way they wanted to react to it. I also don't see many power-hungry vicars/priests even in conventional churches, they are closer to community workers in their pay and pastoral role.

    If you use Christianity (I can't speak for any other faith) as a reason to hate anybody you're following your own agenda or being misguided because that ain't what it's about. Jesus never stoned anyone...
    I have a question. Did any of the authors of the "New Testament" even meet Jesus?

    The word "Christ" and "Christianity" didn't exist until ~300 years after "Jesus" died. Yes the man "Jesus" may have existed. A quote from the "Holy Roman Church" is "This Nazarene has served us well!".

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
    Sorry, but 2000+ years of history shows that to be utterly false. Religion is all about control and power - always has been, always will. The hate it engenders has been vividly demonstrated by this thread.
    That's a load of crap. I actually live a life heavily involved with my church and my direct experiences refute your argument. My church exists only because the people who founded it are keen on that Jesus guy, and because other people liked the way they wanted to react to it. I also don't see many power-hungry vicars/priests even in conventional churches, they are closer to community workers in their pay and pastoral role.

    If you use Christianity (I can't speak for any other faith) as a reason to hate anybody you're following your own agenda or being misguided because that ain't what it's about. Jesus never stoned anyone...

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  • BrowneIssue
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    Originally posted by FarmerPalmer View Post
    This government has effectively already removed my rights to bear arms
    Ooh, it's like Saudi Arabia, innit. You can't go round with bare arms there, either.

    Originally posted by FarmerPalmer View Post
    The only people allowed to bear arms in laws are the Scottish and Sikhs - even though it is illegal for the "raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in time of peace", and baptised Sikh men are by definition of their faith, warriors.
    Given the history of the Sikhs, I shouldn't worry one little bit about them being a threat to us in Britain. And tarring them with the 'all Asians are terrorists' is even more offensive than usual.

    I know generalising is dangerous, but there are not many races that can say they have earned the right to be in England. Since the Normans there's been the Vikings / Danes (by conquest or purchase); the Scots, Welsh and Irish (who stood there in red coats and died for us); the Poles earned their place here (in WWII dying in our merchant ships and aircraft); the ANZACs (who stopped the German machine gun bullets for no good reason for us); and the Sikhs allowed us to keep the Jewel in the Crown and, therefore, the Empire. There are others, but you should get the point.

    And if there's to be a punch up between anyone and the Sikhs, I'll be standing behind the Sikhs, holding their coats.
    Last edited by BrowneIssue; 30 March 2009, 17:55. Reason: Had to add the ANZACs

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by FarmerPalmer View Post
    This government has effectively already removed my rights to bear arms (the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law), by introducing laws that don't allow me to bear any arms.
    Sounds like that was one of their more visionary pieces of legislation as you come across like Tony Martin with special needs!

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    Hmmm, don't let the truth get in the way of your fairy tale.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Channel-4.html
    Let's ask Churchill what he thinks of this?

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Jesus Christ gave us the first mass and gave us the first Pope 2000 years ago, protestants decided to change the religion in the 17th century.
    This message is not shown because minestrone is on your burn-at-the-stake list

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  • Incognito
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Jesus Christ gave us the first mass and gave us the first Pope 2000 years ago, protestants decided to change the religion in the 17th century.

    Hmmm, don't let the truth get in the way of your fairy tale.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Channel-4.html

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by expat View Post
    Ah, the voice of tolerance: only mine is the True Church, the rest are imposters......
    Jesus Christ gave us the first mass and gave us the first Pope 2000 years ago, protestants decided to change the religion in the 17th century.

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
    Sorry, but 2000+ years of history shows that to be utterly false. Religion is all about control and power - always has been, always will. The hate it engenders has been vividly demonstrated by this thread.
    Agree with that. 2000+ years of history: cases of religions not abusing power = cases of religions not having power.

    All religions corrupt, and absolute religions corrupt absolutely.

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  • PM-Junkie
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    ....hate-filled people twist anything to fuel their hate... but that has nothing at all to do with what the religion is actually based on... people can twist any philosophy or faith to fit their needs but it doesn't change the veracity of it.
    Sorry, but 2000+ years of history shows that to be utterly false. Religion is all about control and power - always has been, always will. The hate it engenders has been vividly demonstrated by this thread.

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    There is only one true Catholic church, yes the Eastern Europeans tried to invent their own and the English had their own try but the Roman Catholic church is the only true Catholic church.
    Ah, the voice of tolerance: only mine is the True Church, the rest are imposters......

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by expat View Post
    Quite a lot, compared to - what is it? 3 or 4 "catholic" churches?
    There is only one true Catholic church, yes the Eastern Europeans tried to invent their own and the English had their own try but the Roman Catholic church is the only true Catholic church.

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