Reply to: George Osborne - "None will earn more than the PM’s £190,000-a-year"

[minestrone]

No representation without taxation! Otherwise you get the current situation where those who don't contribute vote in a council that pushes up tax year on year by more than the rate of inflation.

Welcome to Glasgow!!

The council, a couple of weeks ago, decided to up the minimum wage for council workers. all well and good but not when the country is bust.

The SNP are trying to push through a 3% income tax in place of the council tax, the Libs want it to be variable between councils which will happen as they need them to get the vote passed. I am very seriously considering moving to Engerland when this happens.

[MrMark]

I'm very dubious about having a "maximum wage". So long as they're paying the correct top rate tax, I'm quite happy for people with the right skills to command high remuneration. I've not yet totally given up the chance of this myself!
However, what I would like to see is local councils or authorities given more responsibility (and power) over their budget. They should be given the option of raising money in other ways, perhaps by putting them in charge of stamp duty rates in their area. However, and this is important, the right to vote in council elections should be limited to those who pay council tax. No representation without taxation! Otherwise you get the current situation where those who don't contribute vote in a council that pushes up tax year on year by more than the rate of inflation.

[minestrone]

Teaching? Or managing?

My Mrs is Head of PE - worth a mere £40k pa. You couldn't get me to do her job for triple that.

Well I am sure the country respects our youth star jumping for 2 hours a week. Must be hard to say "can we all do star jumps now"

[Moscow Mule]

Teachers: Most of the people who dropped out of engineering with an ordinary and were refused entry to the honours went into teaching and now earn more than the people with firsts.

Teaching? Or managing?

My Mrs is Head of PE - worth a mere £40k pa. You couldn't get me to do her job for triple that.

[minestrone]

Teachers: Most of the people who dropped out of engineering with an ordinary and were refused entry to the honours went into teaching and now earn more than the people with firsts.

[NotAllThere]

In real terms, the savings are tiny. But it makes the chavs and the self-righteous feel better.

[minestrone]

Just before we all sign up to this, what really will the saving be?

I see it more as a bit of saber ratting rather than the full swinging axe to the public sector pensions that should be happening. Possibly a sign that the public sector is bigger than the tories now?

[GreenerGrass]

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehou...fat-cats.thtml


There is an important policy announcement from George Osborne in his interview with The Sun today:

“He also declared war on public servant fat cats.

None will earn more than the PM’s £190,000-a-year.”

This is both good politics and good policy. It will strike a chord with a public that is increasingly angry and frustrated at the excesses of the public sector boss class. And, really, can any CoffeeHousers explain why the chief executive of the Carbon Trust has to be paid £262,350 a year?

One of the great scandals of Labour’s period in power is how public sector managers are now getting paid private sector salaries but still receiving public sector levels of benefits, job security and working conditions. It is good to see that the Tories will set about ending this cosy stitch-up which has been carried out at the expense of the taxpayer.

Sensibly, the Tories have exempted permanent secretaries, the Bank of England and the Financial Services Authority from this measure — meaning that where necessary the government can still compete with top-end private sector salaries. But the fact that 68 quangocrats are paid more than the Prime Minister’s £190,000 is proof-positive that there is a waste to be cut in the public sector. It is also indicative of a culture that has no concept of value for money.

A masterstroke, this more than makes up for Eric Pickles last night.
I wonder what all the council bosses who put their money in Icelandic banks will be capped at?

[Flashman]

do agree though that public sector can't expect 'on-par' salaries with the private sector, yet still expect the cushy 9-5 hours, unsackable wrecklessness, and job security.

You forgot the Publc Sector index linked golden pensions Chris.

You both forgot the generous holiday provision.

Edit: I forgot the 'no questions asked, take 6 months off for stress' sick leave .

[minestrone]

We shoud reduce Brown's wage to 10 quid, he might get tempted to take a high paying non job at some IB like Blair did. Well, he does have all the qualifications, useless, knows how to lose money quickly.

[threaded]

Dunno, I reckon £190k for being the PM is too low when you look at the level and responsibility it carries. Forget Gordon Brown for a minute as a person, but look at the role...

What responsibility? He's a professional gob tulipe!

[DimPrawn]

As I was saying the other day my daily rate is now about 65% of what it was 5 years ago, the gf's public sector wage has more than doubled.

So has your tax burden.

[minestrone]

As I was saying the other day my daily rate is now about 65% of what it was 5 years ago, the gf's public sector wage has more than doubled.

[realityhack]

I do agree though that public sector can't expect 'on-par' salaries with the private sector, yet still expect the cushy 9-5 hours, unsackable wrecklessness, and job security.

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[AlfredJPruffock]

do agree though that public sector can't expect 'on-par' salaries with the private sector, yet still expect the cushy 9-5 hours, unsackable wrecklessness, and job security.

You forgot the Publc Sector index linked golden pensions Chris.