Reply to: Work vs not work

[Mich the Tester]

You clump a large swath of England together as homogenous, when in fact it's very heterogeneous. There is a North North divide as much as your North South one.

Several of them

Liverpool/Manchester
Lancaster/York
Urban/Rural
West of Pennines/East of Pennines
Tyne/Tees/Humber
Coast/Dales
Rugby League/Rugby Union

I’ll tell you what though; I'm sure all northerners would rather be here than here

[Cyberman]

You clump a large swath of England together as homogenous, when in fact it's very heterogeneous. There is a North North divide as much as your North South one. It's all in your head as usual, are you on medication?

You just haven't got a clue. Labour will win the election due to the reasons that I have given.

[Bagpuss]

You clump a large swath of England together as homogenous, when in fact it's very heterogeneous. There is a North North divide as much as your North South one. It's all in your head as usual, are you on medication?

[Cyberman]

you stereotype people from the North. Presumably that's everyone north of Watford as labour, yet you live in a Labour stringhold in the 'sensible' south. It renders your point as worthless as ever.

Look at Crewe and Nantwich, they voted Conservative, so are less red than where you live.

There are pockets of public sector employees, union members and benefit grabbers also in the South, so your point is meaningless. Reading has always been a deprived area in relation to the area where I live, and is now inundated with immigrants, just as Slough is. Thus they are and always will be Labour voting areas.

[expat]

You are one of the few exceptions, which there will thankfully always be, but in general my points are valid. Northerners have been indoctrinated against Thatcher and the Tories not least because of the miners' strike, and believe that she ruined the UK when all evidence shows that we had one of our most prosperous periods. Hence, when you look at any election results there is always a sea of red in the North and always will be.

we in the South-East

[Bagpuss]

Tatton has George Osbourne as it's MP.

[Mich the Tester]

you stereotype people from the North. Presumably that's everyone north of Watford as labour, yet you live in a Labour stringhold in the 'sensible' south. It renders your point as worthless as ever.

Look at Crewe and Nantwich, they voted Conservative, so are less red than where you live.

Fylde, Ribble Valley and Lancaster are conservative strongholds in Lancashire. Probably because they're richer than all those dole scroungers down south.

[Bagpuss]

So why is that relevant to my point ?

you stereotype people from the North. Presumably that's everyone north of Watford as labour, yet you live in a Labour stronghold in the 'sensible' south. It renders your point as worthless as ever.

Look at Crewe and Nantwich, they voted Conservative, so are less red than where you live.

[Cyberman]

Reading West is Labour you fwit!

So why is that relevant to my point ?

[Bagpuss]

Reading West is Labour you fwit!

How do you explain that?

[Cyberman]

Oi. I am a northerner. My parents are northerners and my grandparents too. None have ever voted labour. I am also a member of a union; the Dutch FNV Freelancers union; it gives me discounts on insurance and accountacy and legal fees which more than make up for the membership fee. I am also an immigrant. I would never vote Labour because I believe people should, and given a chance most will pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Having a go at immigrants is cheap and has nothing to do with liberty or even conservatism; in my books anyone who earns an honest living is my equal, wherever he comes from.

You are one of the few exceptions, which there will thankfully always be, but in general my points are valid. Northerners have been indoctrinated against Thatcher and the Tories not least because of the miners' strike, and believe that she ruined the UK when all evidence shows that we had one of our most prosperous periods. Hence, when you look at any election results there is always a sea of red in the North and always will be.

[Bagpuss]

Indeed. Then add immigrants that have been given British citizenship, public sector employees trying to protect their pensions, Northerners that always vote Labour because their fathers etc did, and most union members, and their is you majority for Labour. Still, Labour should sort out this mess of their own making, so good luck to them !!

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[Zippy]

Can anyone think of a job in which you would happily employ a Chawner?

How about as bouncers on the Jerry Springer show?

Seriously, anything that would get them off their fat arses e.g. litter picking or gardening for old people. When they've lost the weight they won't have an excuse.

[Mich the Tester]

Indeed. Then add immigrants that have been given British citizenship, public sector employees trying to protect their pensions, Northerners that always vote Labour because their fathers etc did, and most union members, and their is you majority for Labour. Still, Labour should sort out this mess of their own making, so good luck to them !!

Oi. I am a northerner. My parents are northerners and my grandparents too. None have ever voted labour. I am also a member of a union; the Dutch FNV Freelancers union; it gives me discounts on insurance and accountacy and legal fees which more than make up for the membership fee. I am also an immigrant. I would never vote Labour because I believe people should, and given a chance most will pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Having a go at immigrants is cheap and has nothing to do with liberty or even conservatism; in my books anyone who earns an honest living is my equal, wherever he comes from.

[Mich the Tester]

Can anyone think of a job in which you would happily employ a Chawner?

OK, you could use them for rolling cricket wickets, but if you're going to say they should work, and in principle I agree that they should, it might be helpful to suggest a job in which they can't do any real harm their special individual talents will come to full fruition.