Reply to: What the Independent didn't publish

[threaded]

Although they came from the UK and travelled thousands of miles on a humanitarian mission there was not a mention in the UK media.

Anything in the US? Canada? Mainland Europe? Anywhere???

Nothing mentioned here in Denmark. There is some gang war going on and the weekend headline was that it's causing the girlies not to party so much, so an awful lot of the guys are up in arms about it. No kidding, there was a big demonstration today demanding the politicians and police do something to encourage the girls to continue partying. Todays news is the main political grouping said they definitely will not have differential VAT rates, i.e. drop the rate for the kinds of goods partying girlies would buy, and that's prompted loads of talking heads on the TV.

[Lambros]

Although they came from the UK and travelled thousands of miles on a humanitarian mission there was not a mention in the UK media.

Anything in the US? Canada? Mainland Europe? Anywhere???

[EternalOptimist]

You are absoutely right Paddy! Good to see someone else sticking up for the cause!

Luckily for the Palestinians, the 'urgently' need water and food should arrive today. How they have survived so long without water is a mystery.

Why did the Egyptians refuse entry to four members of the convoy ? maybe it's not just the UK police that have some qualms about some of these people

[AZZIK]

The use and abuse of anti-terrorism laws are boring until it’s used against yourself by authorities such as the local counsel gathering information about which school your kids qualify to attend ( As Poole Council did) or arresting train spotters for writing down train numbers. And don’t forget ani-terrorism law now prevents you from photographing counsel officials, police and traffic wardens.

You are absoutely right Paddy! Good to see someone else sticking up for the cause!

[Pickle2]

the police paid the fares so the wrongly arrested men could catch up with the convoy

They weren't exactly water-boarded were they? Compared with spending 3 nights in the back of a van with a bunch of radicalized muslims from lancashire I would say they got a pretty good deal.

Seriously, officers have a reason to suspect. They take subjects "downtown" questioning. Find there supsicions are misplaced. Subjects released and compensated for their trouble.

How the fook else do you expect a police force to operate? Hauling people in for questions is par for the course.

[BrilloPad]

Palestine is a country? Since when? Did anyone tell them?

If/when it is a country does that mean middle east peace?

[sasguru]

Well, there is the minor difference that ETA is a terrorist organisation, and Palestine is a country recently invaded and devastated. And that is not partisan politics, that is a fact.

Palestine is a country? Since when? Did anyone tell them?

[Turion]

Those Palastinies got off lightly. Should have been sent to Gitmo via first class rendition.

[Board Game Geek]

True Expat, but Palenstine also has its own terrorist organisations, and as such needs additional scrutiny.

[expat]

It's a bit like having a convoy called "Viva ETA" driving down the M1 for goodness sake.

Well, there is the minor difference that ETA is a terrorist organisation, and Palestine is a country recently invaded and devastated. And that is not partisan politics, that is a fact.

[NotAllThere]

...And if the convoy had been "Viva Israel", then I would have expected them to be stopped as well, for their terrorist actions against Palestine.

You might have thought it equitable, but expected it? Not when the secret services rely on Mossad for a lot of their intelligence.

[TykeMerc]

I read it and I am deeply deeply concerned. Yet another incident of the police ignoring basic freedoms and human rights.

How much more of this will the British put up with?

I read it too, not terribly well written, but an interesting main point or two.

As to your second point the British will put up with an awful lot due to a combination of factors including, but not limited to:-

Apathy
Cynicism/Realism
General law abiding behaviour
Futility since we have no actual democracy
Fear
Low intelligence due to abysmal education

[Board Game Geek]

Oh FFS, surely the name "Viva Palestina" gives an inkling that, regardless of innocence or not, the mob of sympathisers need a closer look, due to Palestine's terrorist actions ?

It's a bit like having a convoy called "Viva ETA" driving down the M1 for goodness sake.

Or having a convoy called "North Korean Aid Fund" driving down the M1. Who knows what they are sending ?

I'd be more worried if the police didn't stop these convoys and ignore them completely.

And if the convoy had been "Viva Israel", then I would have expected them to be stopped as well, for their terrorist actions against Palenstine.

I'm not taking sides. Both nations are dodgy as feck and should be treated accordingly.

[BrilloPad]

Maybe, but why don't you say that in the first place. It's more interesting and to the point than cutting and pasting a massive block of gobbledygook no-one will be bothered to read.

I read it and I am deeply deeply concerned. Yet another incident of the police ignoring basic freedoms and human rights.

How much more of this will the British put up with?

[Turion]

The use and abuse of anti-terrorism laws are boring until it’s used against yourself by authorities such as the local counsel gathering information about which school your kids qualify to attend ( As Poole Council did) or arresting train spotters for writing down train numbers. And don’t forget ani-terrorism law now prevents you from photographing counsel officials, police and traffic wardens.

Maybe, but why don't you say that in the first place. It's more interesting and to the point than cutting and pasting a massive block of gobbledygook no-one will be bothered to read.