Reply to: Brainwashing the kids

[BrilloPad]

The Muslims round my way try to get their kids into Catholic schools. They are quite happy to forget that the Vatican loved nothing better than funding a bit of Saracen slaughtering for hundreds of years because the kids will be told homosexuality is wrong in the class.

The catholic church is very slow to change : but gets there eventually.

[minestrone]

The Muslims round my way try to get their kids into Catholic schools. They are quite happy to forget that the Vatican loved nothing better than funding a bit of Saracen slaughtering for hundreds of years because the kids will be told homosexuality is wrong in the class.

[Old Greg]

To be honest, I find the tone of that article insulting. It implies that christian & muslim are the only choices available. As usual, people who don't believe in supernatural super-beings are excluded.

That's because you can't prove that you exist. Ergo, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.

[Grinder]

fwiw, I'd have withdrawn my kids. It seems to me an obviously politicised event.

Not true about Muslims in this case: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5863871.ece

To be honest, I find the tone of that article insulting. It implies that christian & muslim are the only choices available. As usual, people who don't believe in supernatural super-beings are excluded.

[GreenerGrass]

"carpet munching".

Do they teach that by the Wednesday or Thursday? WTF happens on Friday? A big gay cross-dressing parade through the streets led by Gok Wan where "straight" kids with poor dress sense are ostracised and humiliated?

[NotAllThere]

To be more precise it's illegal if you are an atheist or Christian, if you are Muslim it's not illegal.
You really have to know the rules of minority interest top trumps. They are quite complex though.

Then there is the small matter of defining "prejudice" vs "beliefs and values".

I may be old fashioned but at primary school if a teacher showed us pictures of "chicks with dicks" and whatnot we were supposed to tell a police officer and our parents.

fwiw, I'd have withdrawn my kids. It seems to me an obviously politicised event.

Not true about Muslims in this case: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5863871.ece

Pervez Latif, whose children Saleh, ten, and Abdur-Rahim, nine, attend the school, said both Christian and Muslim parents objected to the theme linked to Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender History Month.

[NotAllThere]

Sorry, I don't quite get the point - who's doing the brainwashing - the parents or the LEA?

Whilst I don't think LGBT should be rammed down their throat (I can see a few puns about that one coming up), I also don't agree that it should be swept under the carpet either.

No it should be combined to simply enforce ramming carpet down your own throat, or "carpet munching".

[Old Greg]

To be more precise it's illegal if you are an atheist or Christian, if you are Muslim it's not illegal.
You really have to know the rules of minority interest top trumps. They are quite complex though.

To be even more precise, that's nonsense. You really should learn to recognize the manifestations of Daily Mail paranoia. They are quite simple.

[Old Greg]

That is how my mum explained it to me.

I was having lunch with my 6 year old daughter & 3 year old son in the kitchen when this story was on the radio news.

My first thought was how do I explain this if my daughter asks 'what is gay?', and I quickly decided (it had to be quick) that I would just say that sometimes men fall in love with other men, and women with women.

She understands 'love' as far as Disney sees it - Sleeping Beauty, Mulan, Beauty & the Beast, Little Mermaid etc., so this seemed to the the easiest way of explaining.

Now I've had time to think about it, I'm actually comfortable with that explanation - she didn't ask this time but when she does I will know what to say.

[GreenerGrass]

AFAIK you can take your children out of school and home-school them, but not if it is because of a prejudice you hold that is illegal to hold and act upon.

To be more precise it's illegal if you are an atheist or Christian, if you are Muslim it's not illegal.
You really have to know the rules of minority interest top trumps. They are quite complex though.

Then there is the small matter of defining "prejudice" vs "beliefs and values".

I may be old fashioned but at primary school if a teacher showed us pictures of "chicks with dicks" and whatnot we were supposed to tell a police officer and our parents.

[Grinder]

I was having lunch with my 6 year old daughter & 3 year old son in the kitchen when this story was on the radio news.

My first thought was how do I explain this if my daughter asks 'what is gay?', and I quickly decided (it had to be quick) that I would just say that sometimes men fall in love with other men, and women with women.

She understands 'love' as far as Disney sees it - Sleeping Beauty, Mulan, Beauty & the Beast, Little Mermaid etc., so this seemed to the the easiest way of explaining.

Now I've had time to think about it, I'm actually comfortable with that explanation - she didn't ask this time but when she does I will know what to say.

[Old Greg]

A week ... a whole fookin week to brainwash the kiddies that up the OXO tower is a valid..equal choice?

what even the peados?

It is always interesting to see people with a homophobic bent when they obsess over men inserting their penises into other men's anuses. They often seem the angry sort.

[Board Game Geek]

Whilst I don't think LGBT should be rammed down their throat (I can see a few puns about that one coming up), I also don't agree that it should be swept under the carpet either.

And therein lies the problem.

By the very existance of a separate society for LGBT, you are perpetuating division and difference.

I would much prefer a society where we do not need to celebrate "diversity and difference" and instead just accept that we are what we are.

[expat]

On a serious note - not being a parent here so would appreciate the viewpoint of those with kids in school:

Can the LEA/Council/school really prosecute the parents for taking their children out of classes in objection? It's their choice, after all, whether to have them attend school or not. They could even home-school them under English law if they wanted to. What would the charge be?

AFAIK you can take your children out of school and home-school them, but not if it is because of a prejudice you hold that is illegal to hold and act upon.

[Pickle2]

What if your son is born gay?

Does that make him easier for Paedos to get at?