Reply to: Is the doom just beginning?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Our only hope woud be to find some way to Travel backwards in Time to the Gates of Allyssium.- othewise I fear its

Fire -

... I'll take you to learn

Fire -

I'll see you burn

You fought hard and you saved and earned
But all of it's going to burn
And your mind,
your tiny mind

You know you've really been so blind
Now 's your time, burn your mind


Fire, to destroy all you've done
I'll feel you burn

You've been living like a little girl
In the middle of your little world


Fire, I'll take you to learn

[DimPrawn]

Yes, he is a cant!

[AlfredJPruffock]

Yes, that might well be the best name for it.

Threaded - please - no stop - you can't !!!!!

[Tensai]

I think you'd be hard pressed to find investors who bought all their shares right at the top of the market.

[DimPrawn]

Threaded, are you married to Mystic Meg?

No, Rosey Palmer.

HTH

[Bagpuss]

Threaded, are you married to Mystic Meg?

[threaded]

Hes talking about the detonation of the Reality Bomb.

Yes, that might well be the best name for it.

[BlasterBates]

just received a 10% dividend payment from one of my stocks...

not a bad start really

[AtW]

So that might indicate that now is a good time to invest.

No, it might not - dividends are paid for past performance, so what if some house building company made big profits from 2008 when they got only prospect of big losses in the next few years?

Dividends based model of share pricing only works with stable businesses that give pretty much guaranteed returns.

So 5% dividends right now means jack all if there won't be any dividends in the next few years.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find investors who bought all their shares right at the top of the market.

They don't want to be found out for sure

[BlasterBates]

Is that %-tage to current low share prices? If you bought shares on the peak (say double the share price) then suddenly dividends ain't that high.

Well the point is the return if you'd bought 10 years ago wouldn't be 0 because the dividend yield at that time was about 2% and has now risen.

So that might indicate that now is a good time to invest.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find investors who bought all their shares right at the top of the market.

[AtW]

I'm currently recieving about 4-5% in dividends.

Is that %-tage to current low share prices? If you bought shares on the peak (say double the share price) then suddenly dividends ain't that high and even if they were 5% then still massive loss in share price won't make one feel very good: nobody invests long term now, waiting 15-20 years for dividends to pay back investment is way too long.

[Bagpuss]

Santa, If you are making lots of money by shorting, why do you hate this country. Seems to me it's a land of opportunity for you

[BlasterBates]

Actually you would have decent returns. You might be surprised how much in dividends you get. I'm currently recieving about 4-5% in dividends. So although your portfolio wouldn't be worth a great deal more than 10 years ago you'll be earning quite a few doolies from the divs.

[SantaClaus]

Never mind with your superb technical and charting abilities, I'm sure you have no need to worry.

Hey, you said something right sasguru

Seriously though, the standard "buy and hold" model of investing is dead.
I mean, what sort of returns would the average punter have got on the stock indices if he had held them in his pension for 10 years?

[Doggy Styles]

The UK has agreed on "quantative easing", or in yours and my terms, printing money!

This will dilute the value of the £ further. It will dilute confidence in UK plc and the govt's credit worthinesss.

Jim Rogers said last night on Channel4 that eventually nobody will want to buy UK govt bonds because they wont be worth the paper they are written on. I think he is right.

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...rogers/3009962

Lets face it, the one driver of our economy, finance, is dead!
We killed off manufacturing and agriculture.
We almost killed off IT with outsourcing.
The banks have gone to the wall.
The non pofit making Public sector probably accounts for more employment than the private sector now.
We have corrupt MPs and politicians grabbing anything they can get before it all goes to pot.
We owe an incomprehensible few trillion in debt.
There is no bottom to the market. You are kidding yourself if ypu think there is. Ok, well, maybe zero!
And my baby's generation will be made to pay for this mess.

Anyone want to stick around for too long in this country?
Don't all raise your hands at once!

I thought you lived in Lapland?

Or has that gone to pot as well?