Reply to: MMR, LBC & Jeni Barnett

[NotAllThere]

... all you need to get women to adopt a particular position is to ...

hmm

[dinker]

My mother-in-law is staunchly against it, and considering that she is university-educated it always scares me how she will jump on a medical bandwagon by taking what other people write at face value (she's into alternative therapy, which whilst I think have their place at times still need to be backed up by science).

When I told her our son would definitely be having it there was quite an animated discussion

I love Ben Goldacre's column, one of my favourite reads on my RSS feed.

Women are more socially conforming than men, all you need to get women to adopt a particular position is to apply social pressure.

[NotAllThere]

Probably got a degree in politics.

[sasguru]

My mother-in-law is staunchly against it, and considering that she is university-educated ...

A university "education" is no such thing if it doesn't equip you to think logically.
Better not to to waste the 3-4 years.

[Moscow Mule]

Complain on LBC's website. It's quite good fun as they respond quite quickly.

[Beefy198]

My mother-in-law is staunchly against it, and considering that she is university-educated it always scares me how she will jump on a medical bandwagon by taking what other people write at face value (she's into alternative therapy, which whilst I think have their place at times still need to be backed up by science).

When I told her our son would definitely be having it there was quite an animated discussion

I love Ben Goldacre's column, one of my favourite reads on my RSS feed.

[TykeMerc]

Indeed, all 3 of my children were born around the time of the MMR scare, I looked at the science which I considered flaky, asked my mother (retired medic) what the consequences of the various diseases were and had my children immunised. The decision was incredibly easy.

After careful consideration I believe that immunisation is the single greatest ever advance in medicine.

[Solidec]

It needs to be legislated and enforced. There is no scientific substance whatsoever to the anti-MMR brigades warmarch on triple vaccines and autism links.

It can be done on the grounds of endangering other children by failure to vaccinate!!!

[NotAllThere]

I remember when the MMR scare tripped off, in the PCG forums there was quite a heated debate. The majority seemed to think that it was the action of a caring parent to not get your kid MMR vaccinated. I took the minority stance that not getting your kid immunised was deeply selfish and irresponsible.

[FSM with Cheddar]

It's symptomatic of the zeitgeist.
This country has abandoned science, engineering and all the other stuff that made it rich.
Instead the cult of personality rules, with unqualified, stupid and ignorant journalists, bankers, politicians and managers running the country.

BTW FWIW I've done the signing thing ...

Well said

[Gibbon]

Logos or Mythos

Today the latter is making an unfortunate comeback.

As an aside, why do seemingly educated people still indulge in terms such as 'Mother Nature' ?????

[sasguru]

He he. Stephen Fry seems to agree with me; had this to say, good for him:

"“The fatuity of the Jeni Barnett woman’s manner - her blend of self-righteousness and stupidity, her simply quite staggering inability to grasp, pursue or appreciate a sequence of logical steps - all these are signature characteristics of Britain these days. The lamentable truth is that most of the population wouldn’t really understand why we get so angry at this assault on reason, logic and sense. But we have to keep hammering away at these people and their superstitious inanities. We have to…..”

[sasguru]

Silly lady who doesn't even bother to get a brief inkling of the facts regarding MMR has a 40-odd minute rant on the radio about how MMR is terrible etc.

Labels a nurse (who is simply trying to put her scientifically balanced side across) as "vicious".

It's symptomatic of the zeitgeist.
This country has abandoned science, engineering and all the other stuff that made it rich.
Instead the cult of personality rules, with unqualified, stupid and ignorant journalists, bankers, politicians and managers running the country.

BTW FWIW I've done the signing thing ...

[Moscow Mule]

For people like me who are very busy (at the moment) and very lazy, could someone briefly summarize who is claiming what?

Silly lady who doesn't even bother to get a brief inkling of the facts regarding MMR has a 40-odd minute rant on the radio about how MMR is terrible etc.

Labels a nurse (who is simply trying to put her scientifically balanced side across) as "vicious".

[OwlHoot]

For people like me who are very busy (at the moment) and very lazy, could someone briefly summarize who is claiming what?