Reply to: Odd question from Clientco

[darmstadt]

In my first contract they asked me if I wanted to go permie and I decided to, just for the interest free loan plus the moeny was basically the same as being a contractor. Left after paying the loan off.

I did a 6 month contract down Munich way a time ago and they kept on and on at me to join them as a permie. At least once a month I would be called into the bosses office for a kind of interview and them pleading me to join them. As it was, I was offered an extension which I turned down as I could'nt wait to get out of there. They did have a whip round for me when I left and got a me a little gift and a bottle of champagne, not bad for a contractor.

[realityhack]

I'd be swayed for: -

(1) Whatever permie wage let me come out with £3k per month AFTER tax (what would that be?)
(2) 2 days working from home per week. (Working from home is VERY important to me).
(3) Assuming I got (2), then 5 weeks holidays would do really.
(4) Pension & Bupa.

(1) Check - and then some.
(2) Whenever I like, within reason.
(3) 7 weeks
(4) yep, yep, plus dental, preferential account rates, and all sorts of gubbins, including training.

Crucially - would have to be <= 1 month notice period.

[Stolly]

Totally agree, I just don’t want the responsibility.

I’d much rather keep beavering away on a contract rate for more money than a lead tech perm role with all the baggage that comes with it.

My life ambitions have very little to do with work.

I'm doing it now on a 6 month contract, and did it for 2 years as a permie. Last day of this gig, they offered me an extension and i said no ta !

Start next gig on Monday, this time some other poor muppet is getting to spend 6 months on endless conf calls !

[jmo21]

Totally agree, I just don’t want the responsibility.

I’d much rather keep beavering away on a contract rate for more money than a lead tech perm role with all the baggage that comes with it.

My life ambitions have very little to do with work.

are you really me GJ?? this is getting spooky!

[portseven]

For me it would be something like the following

90K (at least)
Company car allowance
Based from home (or at least 2 days a week)
Pension
Healthcare

Also would have to be something that interests me, which would probably be something to do with Open Source.

[gingerjedi]

Having done that in the past i can say that sometimes its better to be down in the trenches with the cannon fodder.

Totally agree, I just don’t want the responsibility.

I’d much rather keep beavering away on a contract rate for more money than a lead tech perm role with all the baggage that comes with it.

My life ambitions have very little to do with work.

[Liability]

For me the answer would be "a technical lead position".

tim

It is what I am doing for them now.

[Stolly]

For me the answer would be "a technical lead position".

tim

Having done that in the past i can say that sometimes its better to be down in the trenches with the cannon fodder.

[gingerjedi]

I was asked the question when I started here, I asked what the salary would be? The boss just said “about half what you get now… but there are other benefits” needless to say he didn’t really sell it to me enough.

[tim123]

Agree - but than everyone has a price to move to Perm - even a contractor if the role would suit and above all you get a decent rate after tax in the account.

Tempted to throw in a figure for indication.

For me the answer would be "a technical lead position".

tim

[Moscow Mule]

at that rate you would be the boss?

And they'd better not forget it

[MPwannadecentincome]

90K
8 Weeks holiday a year
Full healthcare & dental
Ability to tell boss to go **** himself whenever it's needed.

at that rate you would be the boss?

[SallyAnne]

A mere 52K a year...

http://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php

No way?!!!!

[Moscow Mule]

I'd be swayed for: -

(1) Whatever permie wage let me come out with £3k per month AFTER tax (what would that be?)

A mere 52K a year...

http://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php

[Liability]

I'd be swayed for: -

(1) Whatever permie wage let me come out with £3k per month AFTER tax (what would that be?)
(2) 2 days working from home per week. (Working from home is VERY important to me).
(3) Assuming I got (2), then 5 weeks holidays would do really.
(4) Pension & Bupa.

I see where you are coming from on this.

Agree with number 2 as well - to me its massive - as it allows me to spend time with the kids -get little more sleep and above all acually work more efficient and focused.

I negotiated with them before I signed that Id need to work from home 1 or 2 days as its a 180 mile round trip - and I cant do that every day. They didnt have an issue with that.