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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
    Most of the red tape is just there to give jobs to the boys. In financial services much of it is just pointless cut'n'paste, why not just refer to standard paragraphs and regulations taking at most a couple of lines, rather than copy them verbatim and fill out 20 sides of A4.

    The regulators themselves appear to sit around arguing and trying to expand the boundaries of their fiefdoms rather than doing the job.

    So yes, in a counter intuitive way, less red tape could mean more regulation.
    I agree in a sense.
    What’s missing is not regulation, but supervision. Regulation involves lots of procedures and paperwork which can often be used to conceal the truth. Supervision involves the influence of experienced and recognised experts in their field who know how to ask the right questions, find the truth and present it in a way which leads to a more responsible course of action.

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  • Purple Dalek
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    Originally posted by foritisme View Post
    So the City would be more regulated with less red tape ??
    Most of the red tape is just there to give jobs to the boys. In financial services much of it is just pointless cut'n'paste, why not just refer to standard paragraphs and regulations taking at most a couple of lines, rather than copy them verbatim and fill out 20 sides of A4.

    The regulators themselves appear to sit around arguing and trying to expand the boundaries of their fiefdoms rather than doing the job.

    So yes, in a counter intuitive way, less red tape could mean more regulation.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by foritisme View Post
    So the City would be more regulated with less red tape ??
    Stick to voting for Brown. He's the sort of person that best represents your intellect.

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  • foritisme
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    So the City would be more regulated with less red tape ??

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  • Purple Dalek
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    Originally posted by foritisme View Post
    I didn't vote Labour myself, but do you think we would be in a much different situation now if we had had a conservative government for that last 11 years ?
    I would say a quite different situation indeed. Even the Americans would be far better off if the City had been regulated by people with a clue rather than political placemen. Even with all the deregulation just the lightest touch by the clued up would have averted much of what has happend.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by foritisme View Post
    I didn't vote Labour myself, but do you think we would be in a much different situation now if we had had a conservative government for that last 11 years ?
    Massively different. Low taxes, healthy balance sheet, much less red-tape, low immigration and efficient public services.

    It would be a world away from the total bankruptcy, overcrowding and debt we face now as taxpayers for maybe the next 100 years.

    This country is months away from total collapse.

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  • rootsnall
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    Originally posted by foritisme View Post
    I didn't vote Labour myself, but do you think we would be in a much different situation now if we had had a conservative government for that last 11 years ?
    WHS, I'd sooner have AtW or CyberTory running the show than David Cameron. I always vote for the most obscure candidate on the list, if we all did it then things would change.

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  • foritisme
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Hey don't shoot the messenger. You silly chunts voted Labour. Several times.

    I didn't vote Labour myself, but do you think we would be in a much different situation now if we had had a conservative government for that last 11 years ?

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
    the missus retires a week today


    Good point, those retiring. Those leaving due to ill health. Those that die. Those that don't get on with the boss.

    Lots of people leave jobs for all sorts of reasons.

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  • EternalOptimist
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Women who don't come back from maternity.
    People on temp contracts.
    Contractors.
    Those emigrating or have found a better job.
    Those leaving to run the family business.

    Loads of people.
    the missus retires a week today


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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Who would leave a job now?
    Women who don't come back from maternity.
    People on temp contracts.
    Contractors.
    Those emigrating or have found a better job.
    Those leaving to run the family business.

    Loads of people.

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  • Xenophon
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Who would leave a job now?
    Someone with big balls.

    Or big bags of cash.

    Or both.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Hey don't shoot the messenger. You silly chunts voted Labour. Several times.
    Of course in the interim between voting Tony in and now, unemployment did happen to be pretty low for a few years didn't it?
    I am trying to find a graph for the last 15 years, can anyone suggest a website for this kind of thing, all I can find is isolated news stories?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    A lot of jobs will also be lost by simply not re-hiring staff when they leave.
    Who would leave a job now?

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  • AlfredJPruffock
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    Unsure if this scheme is above board but might inspire those who are desperate and have the morals of an alley cat or Tony Blair ....


    “I’m calling with regards to the Honeyrose Foundation which is an appeal for adults who have been diagnosed terminally ill.

    “We are trying to raise support so we can give those affected what could be a final wish, anything from a day out to a weekend away with close family.

    “To do this we are sending out big 3ft by 2ft local business directories.”


    What David wasn’t told to spell out is this:

    * just five per cent of the money raised goes to the Honeyrose Foundation.
    * 30 per cent goes to the rep.
    * the rest is kept by Chestnut House, which has given only £60,000 to Honeyrose from £1.2million raised.

    David’s target earnings were £35,000-a-year. At up to £595 an ad, that’s a lot of wallspace to sell.

    No wonder some Chestnut House employees are economical with the truth.
    Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 15 January 2009, 15:00.

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