We are entering an Ice Age

[Doggy Styles]

Nonsense, the climate is governed by CO2 - what has the Sun got to do with it? It's 93 million miles away!

Yeah, and where is the sun at night when you need it? No wonder it's always f***ing dark.

[swamp]

Правда?

[DimPrawn]

And your source is Pravda?

The Wootton Bassett Evening Observer agrees too.

[FSM with Cheddar]

There's been a lot of piracy around recently, and you and I know how that affects the global climate.

Arrghh

here is the proof

[sasguru]

And your source is Pravda?
That stands for Truth so it must be true just like the Democratic Republic of Congo is really democratic.

[d000hg]

If we are lucky, we may have a few years to prepare for it. The Ice Age will return, as it always has, in its regular and natural cycle, with or without any influence from the effects of AGW

An Ige Age will return with only a few years' warning? That's ridiculous, did they base it on The Day After Tomorrow... or maybe that (highly believable film) was based on this kind of research.


I know Jeremy Clarkson has a few fans here, I was reading his book the other day and to paraphrase him

"if you actually spend time trying to educate yourself on any highly argued topic, you will find there are 2 sides, and both are right. The best way to have a strong opinion is to stay ignorant."

Could almost be the motto of this forum...

Paraphrased from article in Sunday Times, 21st October 2001

[Mich the Tester]

What ever the facts are, it doesn't detract from the fact that we are using the earths resources too quickly, and need to eliminate our dependency on fossil fuels.

There's been a lot of piracy around recently, and you and I know how that affects the global climate.

[DimPrawn]

The Grauniad and Pravda in one day. Someone is REALLY bored...

[ratewhore]

The Grauniad and Pravda in one day. Someone is REALLY bored...

[FSM with Cheddar]

What ever the facts are, it doesn't detract from the fact that we are using the earths resources too quickly, and need to eliminate our dependency on fossil fuels.

[ace00]

. ......According to the Milankovich theory of Ice Age causation, these three astronomical cycles, each of which effects the amount of solar radiation which reaches the earth, act together to produce the cycle of cold Ice Age maximums and warm interglacials. ......

Nonsense, the climate is governed by CO2 - what has the Sun got to do with it? It's 93 million miles away!

[AlfredJPruffock]

Of course sooner or later we shall have another Ice Age , I think that would be the Eighth Ice Age as we already have had seven ?

[DimPrawn]

http://english.pravda.ru/science/ear...arth_ice_age-0

The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science. Many sources of data which provide our knowledge base of long-term climate change indicate that the warm, twelve thousand year-long Holocene period will rather soon be coming to an end, and then the earth will return to Ice Age conditions for the next 100,000 years.

Ice cores, ocean sediment cores, the geologic record, and studies of ancient plant and animal populations all demonstrate a regular cyclic pattern of Ice Age glacial maximums which each last about 100,000 years, separated by intervening warm interglacials, each lasting about 12,000 years.

Most of the long-term climate data collected from various sources also shows a strong correlation with the three astronomical cycles which are together known as the Milankovich cycles. The three Milankovich cycles include the tilt of the earth, which varies over a 41,000 year period; the shape of the earth’s orbit, which changes over a period of 100,000 years; and the Precession of the Equinoxes, also known as the earth’s ‘wobble’, which gradually rotates the direction of the earth’s axis over a period of 26,000 years. According to the Milankovich theory of Ice Age causation, these three astronomical cycles, each of which effects the amount of solar radiation which reaches the earth, act together to produce the cycle of cold Ice Age maximums and warm interglacials.

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During the 1970s the famous American astronomer Carl Sagan and other scientists began promoting the theory that ‘greenhouse gasses’ such as carbon dioxide, or CO2, produced by human industries could lead to catastrophic global warming. Since the 1970s the theory of ‘anthropogenic global warming’ (AGW) has gradually become accepted as fact by most of the academic establishment, and their acceptance of AGW has inspired a global movement to encourage governments to make pivotal changes to prevent the worsening of AGW.

The central piece of evidence that is cited in support of the AGW theory is the famous ‘hockey stick’ graph which was presented by Al Gore in his 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth.” The ‘hockey stick’ graph shows an acute upward spike in global temperatures which began during the 1970s and continued through the winter of 2006/07. However, this warming trend was interrupted when the winter of 2007/8 delivered the deepest snow cover to the Northern Hemisphere since 1966 and the coldest temperatures since 2001. It now appears that the current Northern Hemisphere winter of 2008/09 will probably equal or surpass the winter of 2007/08 for both snow depth and cold temperatures.

The main flaw in the AGW theory is that its proponents focus on evidence from only the past one thousand years at most, while ignoring the evidence from the past million years -- evidence which is essential for a true understanding of climatology. The data from paleoclimatology provides us with an alternative and more credible explanation for the recent global temperature spike, based on the natural cycle of Ice Age maximums and interglacials.

In 1999 the British journal “Nature” published the results of data derived from glacial ice cores collected at the Russia’s Vostok station in Antarctica during the 1990s. The Vostok ice core data includes a record of global atmospheric temperatures, atmospheric CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and airborne particulates starting from 420,000 years ago and continuing through history up to our present time.

Today we are again at the peak, and near to the end, of a warm interglacial, and the earth is now due to enter the next Ice Age. If we are lucky, we may have a few years to prepare for it. The Ice Age will return, as it always has, in its regular and natural cycle, with or without any influence from the effects of AGW.

The AGW theory is based on data that is drawn from a ridiculously narrow span of time and it demonstrates a wanton disregard for the ‘big picture’ of long-term climate change. The data from paleoclimatology, including ice cores, sea sediments, geology, paleobotany and zoology, indicate that we are on the verge of entering another Ice Age, and the data also shows that severe and lasting climate change can occur within only a few years. While concern over the dubious threat of Anthropogenic Global Warming continues to distract the attention of people throughout the world, the very real threat of the approaching and inevitable Ice Age, which will render large parts of the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable, is being foolishly ignored.



AGW = Total utter bollux.