Reply to: Terrorists - again

[The Lone Gunman]

So LG, you will find that most of the Commonwealth people presently in Britain qualify as British according to your definition. Otherwise we couldn't be here working legally for so long

Rebecca in "more British than you!" mode

No sweetheart, most of the commonwealth comes under the "gave up their rights to citizenship when they declared independance" section.
Your "otherwise" is an irrelevance as this is hypothetical.

[Rebecca Loos]

Born in Great Britain, or of British parentage excluding those mentioned above!

So LG, you will find that most of the Commonwealth people presently in Britain qualify as British according to your definition. Otherwise we couldn't be here working legally for so long

Rebecca in "more British than you!" mode

[Mailman]

The US is behaving in exactly the same way as the regimes which they proposed to overthrow in the first place. They can not maintain the moral high ground while camp X-Ray exists.[/i]

Cept these scum get three meals a day (pork added for free ) and a mat to do their religious tulip on...what more could a terrorist ask for?

Mailman

[voron]

Personally, Bekky darling, I would deny the right to a British passport to anyone who was not British by birth, particularly to those from the colonies who have declared their independance or whose ancestors have forgone the right to a British passport by becoming citizens of another nation.

It realy gets to me that so many people from the old empire now want the benefits of being British after their forebears gave up those rights so long ago.
Why we are still pumping billions a year into countries who threw us out I will never

[The Lone Gunman]

"British by birth"

Born in Great Britain, or of British parentage excluding those mentioned above!

[Rebecca Loos]

I am 100% with you matey
now define "British by birth"

[The Lone Gunman]

Personally, Bekky darling, I would deny the right to a British passport to anyone who was not British by birth, particularly to those from the colonies who have declared their independance or whose ancestors have forgone the right to a British passport by becoming citizens of another nation.

It realy gets to me that so many people from the old empire now want the benefits of being British after their forebears gave up those rights so long ago.
Why we are still pumping billions a year into countries who threw us out I will never know...........rant.................rave.......... .......bark..........slaver....................wib ble..................

[Rebecca Loos]

We seem to be forgetting something in this whole story

The guy is Australian

Hence he deserves everything he gets. Just thought I'd clarify this for those of you still struggling to come to terms with the complexities of international relations.

[The Late, Great JC]

The UK can hardly take it on itself to save every innocent person throughout the world.

Why not? It's only fair after all! Just like debt relief in Africa...

[The Lone Gunman]

The UK can hardly take it on itself to save every innocent person throughout the world.

Absolutely, but if a guy is entitled to a British passport.......blah blah blah, I said it all before!

[xoggoth]

The UK can hardly take it on itself to save every innocent person throughout the world.

Also he MAY be a risk. If there is doubt the safety of UK citizens must always come above the interests of foreign nationals. If it were up top me, I would be deporting those dangerous Islamic radicals regardless of their possible fate in other countries.

[The Lone Gunman]

They might not be passing "good character" requirement.

They dont need to pass anything if they are entitled!
I think it is the case that any person who is entitled can ask and if they ask they are issued. The passport can then be removed, but I am not sure of those circumstances, but probably restrict movement to within the UK.
The character thing is for foreigners applying to become British. If you or your parents or whatever the criteria is you are "entitled" to a British passport.

Anybody know better?

[AtW]

It is also not a matter of choice when they are entitled!

They might not be passing "good character" requirement.

[The Lone Gunman]

if we were to offer british passports to all the convicted 'rapists and murderers' on Death Row in American prisons.

Different matter once convicted, and even if they had British passports that is no guarantee of reduction in sentence as shown not so long ago.
It is also not a matter of choice when they are entitled!

[Dundeegeorge]

So how would you feel

if we were to offer british passports to all the convicted 'rapists and murderers' on Death Row in American prisons.