Reply to: Climate Change - it's over

[EternalOptimist]

Yep - sounds like a plan to me.

Let's do the right thing, of course. These buggers still grate though

[BrilloPad]

It is. It's also a good idea that for example, when hurricane damage costs increase even though there's less hurricanes it's not because "climate change made them stronger" but because more people and buildings are located in hurricane areas. Or that the coastal regions are dying due much, much more to pollution than any AGW. Or perhaps that bio-fuels cause starvation. That we are in the middle of a global extinction event not due to a bit of CO2 but because there's too many people.

So a few will die off and then there will be the right amount again.

HTH

[VectraMan]

All I know is it was -7 driving in this morning, and now at lunchtime it's only -1. So that's 6 degrees C in only 4 hours. If things carry on like this, we'll all be toast by Friday.

[TheFaQQer]

So lets do the right thing for the wrong reason eh ?

Yep - sounds like a plan to me.

[Mich the Tester]

So an ice age is on the way after all, just like they thought in the 1970s.

Maybe, and then that 35000 euro flat I saw in Buenos Aires will become even more attractive.

[deano]

I'm off to by a Porche Cayenne.

Sorted!

[Doggy Styles]

So an ice age is on the way after all, just like they thought in the 1970s.

[Mich the Tester]

So lets do the right thing for the wrong reason eh ?

That's all we ever do. Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations; 'It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.'

[EternalOptimist]

If Al Gore and the scientific community are wrong, but we follow their advice anyway, then we will be using a more diversified source of fuel, and have less dependence on the Middle East, Russia, Venezuela and potentially the US.

If Al Gore and the scientific community are wrong, and we don't follow their advice, then when the oil runs out, we are all screwed anyway.

If Al Gore and the scientific community are right, but we ignore their advice, then we are screwed.

So lets do the right thing for the wrong reason eh ?

[Mich the Tester]

It is. It's also a good idea that for example, when hurricane damage costs increase even though there's less hurricanes it's not because "climate change made them stronger" but because more people and buildings are located in hurricane areas. Or that the coastal regions are dying due much, much more to pollution than any AGW. Or perhaps that bio-fuels cause starvation. That we are in the middle of a global extinction event not due to a bit of CO2 but because there's too many people.

Yep, and green fuels use a lot more water in their production than non-renewables, and of course the land that could otherwise be used for crops. All this still speaks in favour of diversification of energy supplies though.

Actually the best way to slow population growth is possibly to get people to live in big crowded cities; urbanisation is usually accompanied by a fall in birth rates.

[Doggy Styles]

Green innovations will probably be the driver of the next economic upswing as we equip ourselves with green cars, houses etc etc.

Green cars are supposed to be unlucky. Ever since Mike Hawthorn killed himself in one, I think.

[ace00]

Indeed, and if there's money to be made from eco-friendly power sources, why don't we just enjoy the next boom? Anyway, it's a good idea to diversify energy sources so that we don't have to depend on the likes of Vlad Putin, the Saudi royal family and that President Chav in Venezuela.

It is. It's also a good idea that for example, when hurricane damage costs increase even though there's less hurricanes it's not because "climate change made them stronger" but because more people and buildings are located in hurricane areas. Or that the coastal regions are dying due much, much more to pollution than any AGW. Or perhaps that bio-fuels cause starvation. That we are in the middle of a global extinction event not due to a bit of CO2 but because there's too many people.

[TheFaQQer]

Indeed, and if there's money to be made from eco-friendly power sources, why don't we just enjoy the next boom? Anyway, it's a good idea to diversify energy sources so that we don't have to depend on the likes of Vlad Putin, the Saudi royal family and that President Chav in Venezuela.

If Al Gore and the scientific community are wrong, but we follow their advice anyway, then we will be using a more diversified source of fuel, and have less dependence on the Middle East, Russia, Venezuela and potentially the US.

If Al Gore and the scientific community are wrong, and we don't follow their advice, then when the oil runs out, we are all screwed anyway.

If Al Gore and the scientific community are right, but we ignore their advice, then we are screwed.

[Mich the Tester]

Green innovations will probably be the driver of the next economic upswing as we equip ourselves with green cars, houses etc etc.

I'm thinking that way too. It's a big opportunity for investors, techies and scientists.

[Mich the Tester]

And Arthur Scargill. Don't forget Arthur Scargill.

Yep, good one. A quick search of the interweb for honest people in the fossil fuels business isn't very promising.