Reply to: Nice one David !!

[ace00]

Only Labour politicians deliberately lie.

You should make that your sig.

[Cyberman]

Oh, look - a politician lied to you, and you enjoyed it!

Bless

Only Labour politicians deliberately lie. Lisbon Treaty, anyone ?

[Doggy Styles]

I would vote for you

So would I. I invaded France last summer, so with my first-hand experience I'd make a good Field Marshall.

[Mich the Tester]

The government should bring back national service for anyone under 30, pour funds into building up industry to create a big army/navy/air force and associated infrastructure, and then invade France.

...cuts unemployment
...boosts industry and gets us back to making things again
...reduces population
...takes thugs off the streets and gives them something useful to do
makes us popular in the world again because we're beating up the French.

It would sort so many problems out...maybe I should run for office

Are you going to 'bring back the birch' as well?

[BrilloPad]

The government should bring back national service for anyone under 30, pour funds into building up industry to create a big army/navy/air force and associated infrastructure, and then invade France.

...cuts unemployment
...boosts industry and gets us back to making things again
...reduces population
...takes thugs off the streets and gives them something useful to do
makes us popular in the world again because we're beating up the French.

It would sort so many problems out...maybe I should run for office

I would vote for you

[TheFaQQer]

The government should bring back national service for anyone under 30, pour funds into building up industry to create a big army/navy/air force and associated infrastructure, and then invade France.

...cuts unemployment
...boosts industry and gets us back to making things again
...reduces population
...takes thugs off the streets and gives them something useful to do
makes us popular in the world again because we're beating up the French.

It would sort so many problems out...maybe I should run for office

Sensible policies for a happier Britain!

[Doggy Styles]

Yes, tax cuts for the rich, they are the ones who need most help, not those unemployed with mortgages and rent to pay.

Are all savers rich?

Or are they just undeserving, bad people for trying to provide for a rainy day or their retirement?

[PM-Junkie]

The government should bring back national service for anyone under 30, pour funds into building up industry to create a big army/navy/air force and associated infrastructure, and then invade France.

...cuts unemployment
...boosts industry and gets us back to making things again
...reduces population
...takes thugs off the streets and gives them something useful to do
makes us popular in the world again because we're beating up the French.

It would sort so many problems out...maybe I should run for office

[Mich the Tester]

Sorry, but that is stupid.

They'll never learn then, will they. And it will encourage everyone else to get into a mess too, because the policy you've just espoused will bail them out and punish those who exercise (genuine) prudence.

So instead of 25% or even 50% in a mess, everyone will be.

I can see why we're in the tulip if we're governed by thinking like that.

Sorry if I'm a bit tetchy.

You're tetchy but you’re right. While I think it’s right for government to ‘help people to help themselves’ if they’re in the tulip, the aim should always be to encourage the kind of prudent behaviour that those who aren’t in the tulip have practised. Encouraging savers while assisting those who are in trouble, conditional upon them saving too, could be a way forward, but you should never punish the sensible people to prop up the idiots. The people with problems need an example of how to do things right, not a bail-out to let them continue their silly borrowing and out of control spending habits.

[Doggy Styles]

I'm not saying your wrong, but the government's job isn't to reward those who have saved, it's to try and protect the average idiot from the mess they got themselves into. Any tax cuts should be given to those who NEED them, not those who DESERVE them (life isn't fair).

Sorry, but that is stupid.

They'll never learn then, will they. And it will encourage everyone else to get into a mess too, because the policy you've just espoused will bail them out and punish those who exercise (genuine) prudence.

So instead of 25% or even 50% in a mess, everyone will be.

I can see why we're in the tulip if we're governed by thinking like that.

Sorry if I'm a bit tetchy.

[d000hg]

But the majority didn't vote them into power - the first past the post system did.

The majority didn't bother to vote.

[TheFaQQer]

We need an electoral college like system, like that of the yanks. Either that or rework the voting boundaries, as somewhere like london is terribly underrepresented in parliament.

More voters in a seats cachement area, more parliamentary clout the area should have (ie more seats).

popular vote should very closely match the parliamentary representation, no more than a 3% deviation, current system totally doesnt allow this.

An area with 40000 people has the same parliamentary clout as an area with 400000 people, and its a bit lame!

PR would be better in actually representing the vote cast proportionately, but there is no interest in adopting that, until there is a hung parliament and a (current) minority party can force it through.

[Solidec]

We need an electoral college like system, like that of the yanks. Either that or rework the voting boundaries, as somewhere like london is terribly underrepresented in parliament.

More voters in a seats cachement area, more parliamentary clout the area should have (ie more seats).

popular vote should very closely match the parliamentary representation, no more than a 3% deviation, current system totally doesnt allow this.

An area with 40000 people has the same parliamentary clout as an area with 400000 people, and its a bit lame!

[TheFaQQer]

Surely the Government's job is to reflect the democratic will of the majority who voted them in to power ?

But the majority didn't vote them into power - the first past the post system did.

[BrilloPad]

Surely the Government's job is to reflect the democratic will of the majority who voted them in to power ?

Considering that the majority possess an average IQ, it would follow that we are being governed by the politics of mediocrity (at best !)