Reply to: Bloody Hotmail

[tim123]

It's all very well you demanding your freedom to send what you want, but email hosts are more concerned protecting those receiving email.

So you do that by not having clients that auto execute or even allow execution by double click, not by stopping someone from receiving something that is (randomly) called .exe.

Just because something is called .exe doesn't mean that it is a Windows exe (and yes I do have a real example if you want it).

If you can't determine if it is, then you shouldn't be blocking it IMHO - not that this arguement helps my case:-(.

tim

[d000hg]

This is not a Hotmail thing. Gmail also does it, in fact Gmail will block sending a zip containing an .exe, and always has done I believe.
And many corporate email setups have exactly the same (or worse) restrictions.
Standard practice is to rename as "myfile.exe.renamed" or similar.

It's all very well you demanding your freedom to send what you want, but email hosts are more concerned protecting those receiving email.

[tim123]

Hotmail has done the right thing although I would not use Hotmail as their service is one the worst. As an IT professional you should have proper paid for email system that has proper back-ups and maintenance.The cost would be about £50 a year. If something goes wrong with a free email system you have no rights to get it resolved.

Never send exe, zip or com files etc via email. Rename the file Filename.TXT and it will go through safe. Once received rename it back again Filename.EXE

I often wonder about the IT abilities of some people on this forum.

Where did I say I was an IT professional?

tim

[realityhack]

I want web based mail (I have 4 of them).

And I want it to be FREE.

What's wrong with that?

tim

Then may I recommend Gmail. Or Googlemail as it is now.

[Paddy]

Hotmail has done the right thing although I would not use Hotmail as their service is one the worst. As an IT professional you should have proper paid for email system that has proper back-ups and maintenance.The cost would be about £50 a year. If something goes wrong with a free email system you have no rights to get it resolved.

Never send exe, zip or com files etc via email. Rename the file Filename.TXT and it will go through safe. Once received rename it back again Filename.EXE

I often wonder about the IT abilities of some people on this forum.

[PAH]

You have got unreasonable expectations of life - almost nothing free is worth having.

Except with the internet, where the opposite is almost true.

Don't know how their business models work (mostly relying on advertising revenue I suppose), but if there's someone charging, there's someone offering it for 'free', and providing at least as good a service.

YouTube (and all the various porn versions ), LastFM, ... the list is almost literally endless but I'm too lazy to think of others that offer free content where others are charging.

[PAH]

I can't believe people use Hotmail in this day and age.

Some client sites only allow access to personal email by using web based solutions over port 80, they block/filter everything else.

I know many pop hosts now have a web interface option, but from what I've seen, they're no better than hotmail!


I also like using hotmail when I've got to give out an email address to some site I half expect to be spammed from, or don't want to give them my proper email address. That includes agents. I know if they're sending emails to my hotmail account I can delete them without even reading them.

Keep my ltd company pop address for business or more serious use, and get bugger all spam via that as a result. The day that changes is the day I know CUK have sold on our details!

[Sysman]

Command line unzip on a non-Windies box can in my experience be used on self-extracting Windies .exe files with success.

HTH

[AtW]

And I want it to be FREE.
What's wrong with that?

You have got unreasonable expectations of life - almost nothing free is worth having.

[tim123]

I can't believe people use Hotmail in this day and age.

It might have been acceptable in 1990 but it's crap, spam ridden rubbish now.

Get yourself a decent email address/mail server host.

I want web based mail (I have 4 of them).

And I want it to be FREE.

What's wrong with that?

tim

[tim123]

..or just rename to .txt before sending.

Rhubarb

Well, yes I know now what hoop I am required to jump through before I sent it.

But the file that I want is sitting on my office computer and I'm at home now!

And I see no reason why I should be required to jump through this hoop.

MS warning me about the possibility of the file being dangerous is one thing, but refusing me access to it, because THEY have decided, WRONGLY, that it IS dangerous is quite another

tim

[bored]

Is it Adobe Flash? Sometimes Flash files are packaged as executables, if it's so you might be able to open it in Linux using the Flash player (or maybe not, I'm no Flash expert).

[_V_]

I can't believe people use Hotmail in this day and age.

It might have been acceptable in 1990 but it's crap, spam ridden rubbish now.

Get yourself a decent email address/mail server host.

[rhubarb]

..or just rename to .txt before sending.

Rhubarb

[PRC1964]

Zip it up.

That always used to foil Microsoft.