Reply to: Labour will be re-elected in June 09

[Mustang]

If you believe in individual freedom and personal responsibility then you are essentially a Tory

If you believe that society (the state) owes you a living then you vote labour.

I am not sure we need another Maggie just yet, but we will one day with the state taking over more and more of our lives (the banking sector, rising taxes, incompetent Labour government).

Although I am not one of these little hypocrites constantly criticise the woman that made the reforms from which they have so profited, I do at least appreciate her achievements according to the context of the situation as it was then.

It annoys me that these revolting little hypocrites (Shimano) will attach any tenuous problem to Maggie just to hide their hypocrisy.

My own opinion with regards to Maggie is that I liked what sho stood for and I admired her courage. However the country should never have needed someone like her in the first place. So you liily livered little "oh so caring" hypocrites who not only want to greedily keep hold of your personal wealth, whilst at the same time keeping your consciences clear, go off and vote liberal or NL, then when we get another Maggie you can blame only yourselves.

[Doggy Styles]

Except The Pistols hardly ever got played on the radio and the lights weren't going out either - the power cuts and 3 day week were in the early 70s Tory government.

It was indeed, in the winter of 73/74 when the unions held them to ransom. I remember it. In March 1974 Heath went to the country asking "Who runs Britain, the government or the unions?" and got the answer "The unions".

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Just wait for the National Grid to collapse early on next year. It'll be just like '78, but without the Pistols on the radio.

Except The Pistols hardly ever got played on the radio and the lights weren't going out either - the power cuts and 3 day week were in the early 70s Tory government.

[Purple Dalek]

Grid won't collapse, generated capacity will (but not next year). Answer will be to buy from France.

This time round, rolling power cust would get people in the streets. They can stand the cold and dark, but resetting all the clock in a modern home every day would drive people crazy.

Shall we return to this, mid march, and see who was correct?

I agree once it does happen, it'll be the constant resetting of video recorders that'll cause the riots.

[expat]

Just wait for the National Grid to collapse early on next year. It'll be just like '78, but without the Pistols on the radio.

Grid won't collapse, generated capacity will (but not next year). Answer will be to buy from France.

This time round, rolling power cust would get people in the streets. They can stand the cold and dark, but resetting all the clock in a modern home every day would drive people crazy.

[DodgyAgent]

WHS

I always laugh when some anti tory moron blames a prime minister of 20 years ago for current ills. It is party loyalty gone mad.

I cant wait to read SA's response to DS's question.

Google is in overdrive

[tay]

If you believe in individual freedom and personal responsibility then you are essentially a Tory

If you believe that society (the state) owes you a living then you vote labour.

I am not sure we need another Maggie just yet, but we will one day with the state taking over more and more of our lives (the banking sector, rising taxes, incompetent Labour government).

Although I am not one of these little hypocrites constantly criticise the woman that made the reforms from which they have so profited, I do at least appreciate her achievements according to the context of the situation as it was then.

It annoys me that these revolting little hypocrites (Shimano) will attach any tenuous problem to Maggie just to hide their hypocrisy.

My own opinion with regards to Maggie is that I liked what sho stood for and I admired her courage. However the country should never have needed someone like her in the first place. So you liily livered little "oh so caring" hypocrites who not only want to greedily keep hold of your personal wealth, whilst at the same time keeping your consciences clear, go off and vote liberal or NL, then when we get another Maggie you can blame only yourselves.

WHS

I always laugh when some anti tory moron blames a prime minister of 20 years ago for current ills. It is party loyalty gone mad.

I cant wait to read SA's response to DS's question.

[Purple Dalek]

It will never be as bad as 78

Just wait for the National Grid to collapse early on next year. It'll be just like '78, but without the Pistols on the radio.

[Platypus]

The conservatives have no one with any experience

Just like NL in 1997 then.

I can't believe people are falling for this "experience" spin from GB.

The yanks rejected the same BS and voted for change.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Gordon Brown is going to get away with it. The majority of UK voters believe:

1. The USA has caused all the UK's problems, not Gordon
2. Gordon is the only man with the experience and ability to get us through it
3. Gordon is in charge of the world recovery
4. The Tories have nothing to contribute

Next June is probably the optimum point for an election, as Gordon's emergency giveaway budget is still fresh in the mind, and is still postponing the inevitable Sterling and UK economy crises.

Anything wrong with my logic?

I think enough will see through him

[Peoplesoft bloke]

we need a Maggie

You Tory boys make I larf. Maggie was the one who began this boom and bust nonsense by deregulating financial services - NL just perpetuated it to its logical conclusion.

And no, I'm not a NL advocate either, but get real FFS!

100% agree and I'm not a NL advocate either

[lilelvis2000]

Gordon probably will still be PM in 2010...but by a hair. The conservatives have no one with any experience....just a bunch of kids really.

High unemployment, high taxes...deja vu baby!

Oh well...back to Canada for me.

[MrMark]

I still think Gordo will bottle it again, and hold on into 2010. By that time there'll be a fair few more people unemployed, and (possibly) the Tories will have got their act together again. I can't see Gordo being re-elected.

[DodgyAgent]

I dont think I have disaggreed with so many sentences in one single post since that ID Cards thread!

so explain then SA

[SallyAnne]

If you believe in individual freedom and personal responsibility then you are essentially a Tory

If you believe that society (the state) owes you a living then you vote labour.

I am not sure we need another Maggie just yet, but we will one day with the state taking over more and more of our lives (the banking sector, rising taxes, incompetent Labour government).

Although I am not one of these little hypocrites constantly criticise the woman that made the reforms from which they have so profited, I do at least appreciate her achievements according to the context of the situation as it was then.

It annoys me that these revolting little hypocrites (Shimano) will attach any tenuous problem to Maggie just to hide their hypocrisy.

My own opinion with regards to Maggie is that I liked what sho stood for and I admired her courage. However the country should never have needed someone like her in the first place. So you liily livered little "oh so caring" hypocrites who not only want to greedily keep hold of your personal wealth, whilst at the same time keeping your consciences clear, go off and vote liberal or NL, then when we get another Maggie you can blame only yourselves.

I dont think I have disaggreed with so many sentences in one single post since that ID Cards thread!