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  • expat
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    Could be worse, you could have caused a walkout at a football game for wearing it.

    http://news.scotsman.com/scotland?articleid=4675494
    Shocking. I think they should not have ducked out by having applause, they should have had a silence.

    If some Celtic fans are so anti-British, and anti-Scottish indeed because god knows enough Scots are pushing up Flanders poppies, that they will insult the remembrance of the dead, then let them stand out as such, don't hide them.

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  • Incognito
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    Could be worse, you could have caused a walkout at a football game for wearing it.

    http://news.scotsman.com/scotland?articleid=4675494

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by chef View Post
    Ive just realised Ive been walking around germany with a rememberance poppy on my coat.. is that insensitive?
    I asked myself that question too, but clearly it is about the fallen, not the fighting.

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  • darmstadt
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    Germans call the pre-Lenten Carnival season die närrische Saison ("the foolish season") or die fünfte Jahreszeit ("the fifth season"). Except for Munich's Oktoberfest, it is the one time of year when many normally staid Germans (and Austrians and Swiss) loosen up and go a little crazy. Fastnacht or Karneval is a "movable feast" (ein beweglicher Festtag) that depends on the date of Easter (Ostern). In 2008 Fastnacht falls on February 5 (Faschingsdienstag). The official start of the Fasching season is either January 7 (the day after Ephiphany, Dreikönige) or the 11th day of the 11th month (Elfter im Elften, Nov. 11), depending on the region. That gives the Carnival guilds (Zünfte) three to four months to organize each year's events (Carnival balls, parades, royalty, etc.) leading up to the big bash in the week before Ash Wednesday (Aschermittwoch), when the Lenten season (die Fastenzeit) begins.
    the Roman Catholic Shrovetide carnival as celebrated in German-speaking countries. There are many regional differences concerning the name, duration, and activities of the carnival. It is known as Fasching in Bavaria and Austria, Fosnat in Franconia, Fasnet in Swabia, Fastnacht in Mainz and its environs, and Karneval in Cologne and the Rhineland. The beginning of the pre-Lenten season generally is considered to be Epiphany (January 6), but in Cologne, where the festivities are the most elaborate, the official beginning is marked on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of the year. Merrymaking may get underway on the Thursday before Lent, but the truly rambunctious revelry associated with Fasching usually reaches its high point during the three days preceding Ash Wednesday, culminating on Shrove Tuesday
    Als Beginn der Fastnachtszeit galt bzw. gilt in den deutschsprachigen Ländern traditionell der Dreikönigstag.

    Seit dem 19. Jahrhundert finden in vielen Gegenden zusätzlich am 11. November, ab 11:11 Uhr einzelne Veranstaltungen statt, zu denen insbesondere die Vorstellung des Prinzenpaars gehört. Hintergrund ist, dass auch das Geburtsfest Christi bereits kurz nach dessen Fixierung im Jahr 354 eine vorangehende 40-tägige Fastenperiode vorsah, vor deren Beginn man - wie vor Karneval - ebenfalls die später verbotenen Fleischvorräte aufzuzehren pflegte (Gansessen am 11. November, dem Martinstag).

    Die Zeit vom 12. November bis 5. Januar bleibt aber selbst in den Hochburgen entlang des Rheins weiterhin weitgehend karnevalsfrei, was sich aus der erwähnten vorweihnachtlichen Fastenzeit, der Rolle des Novembers als Trauermonat und dem besinnlichen Charakter des Advent erklärt. Soweit von einer „Vorverlagerung“ des Karnevalsbeginns oder von einer „Saisoneröffnung“ am 11. November gesprochen wird, ist dies daher zumindest irreführend. Von seiner Entstehungsgeschichte her stellt der 11. November vielmehr einen zweiten, „kleinen“ Karneval dar; 1823 bestimmte nämlich ein "Festordnendes Comité" in Köln das närrische Datum zum Beginn der Vorbereitungen für einen von nun an geregelten Karnevalsumzug.
    And the pubs/clubs here are open for 80 hours non-stop at the end (Weiberfastnacht can be rather rude as well...)

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  • NotAllThere
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    I've been asked why I wear a poppy. I tell them it's to remember all those who died in the wars, in the first world war and since. It doesn't seem to cause any offence.

    The beginning of Fachnacht on the 11th November at 11:00, hasn't any link that I've been able to find.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    On the 11/11 in the UK you remember the war, on the 11/11 in Germany (at 11:11) they start carnival season (Fasching) and get drunk, whats better?
    Ah, but 10/11 is the anniversary of Kristallnacht.

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  • SallyAnne
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    on the 11/11 in Germany (at 11:11) they start carnival season (Fasching) and get drunk, whats better?
    In remembrance of troops who died serving their country?

    Or for something completely different?

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  • darmstadt
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    On the 11/11 in the UK you remember the war, on the 11/11 in Germany (at 11:11) they start carnival season (Fasching) and get drunk, whats better?

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  • NiceUpNorth
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    Originally posted by chef View Post
    Ive just realised Ive been walking around germany with a rememberance poppy on my coat.. is that insensitive?

    I would say not at all! It shows that you are remembering the fallen.
    If any did take offence, they (previous generations) are ones who initiated the need for such a day in the first place!

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  • SallyAnne
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    I'd be suprised if they knew what it meant. I'm sure they'll have their own remembrance day, but the poppy wont signify that to them surely?

    My hubby worked with a german PM not so long ago who asked him what it was all about.

    Then again he also asked him <queue Allo Allo german accent> "vot is spam, ven you do not eat it?"

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  • chef
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    no i'll be working and therefore billing for my time..

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  • ace00
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    I guess you don't get the day off tomorrow then in Germany?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Have you had any odd looks or stares?

    I thought it was to remember the fallen - presumably they also remember them in Germany? Not their fault they had rubbish leaders......

    BP
    PS My kids made me put a poppy on the car

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  • chef
    started a topic Poppies

    Poppies

    Ive just realised Ive been walking around germany with a rememberance poppy on my coat.. is that insensitive?

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