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Originally posted by Paddy View PostAnd how would the gov track voice over IP 3G mobile like wot I got?
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Originally posted by SantaClaus View PostI think Jacqui Smith must read that book every night, furiously scribbling notes.
It's incredible how NewLie are destroying our freedoms.
42 day detention (luckily rejected), retrospective taxation, ID cards, monitoring of emails, indiscriminate shooting of innocents such as Jean Charles De Menezes, snooping in our rubbish bins. And all under the guise of "fighting terrorism". Whatever next?
There was a time in the 1980's when the govt. were answerable to the people. I do believe the Tories were in power then. People were encouraged to think for themselves and take control of their lives.
Now the people are servants of the state and nanny Brown keeps us in check in case we should have ideas above our station.
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Originally posted by zathras View PostMessage to Gordon: 1984 was a novel, not a manual
It's incredible how NewLie are destroying our freedoms.
42 day detention (luckily rejected), retrospective taxation, ID cards, monitoring of emails, indiscriminate shooting of innocents such as Jean Charles De Menezes, snooping in our rubbish bins. And all under the guise of "fighting terrorism". Whatever next?
There was a time in the 1980's when the govt. were answerable to the people. I do believe the Tories were in power then. People were encouraged to think for themselves and take control of their lives.
Now the people are servants of the state and nanny Brown keeps us in check in case we should have ideas above our station.Last edited by SantaClaus; 20 October 2008, 20:39.
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Originally posted by snaw View PostMakes me absolutely fckin furious.
I now hardly anyone who's happy with this level of surveillance of their lives, no matter what banner they try to push it through on. WTF was the vote or debate on this with the public at large?
Yet they're happy to avoid us scrutinizing their fcking expenses. Scumbags the lot of them.
Originally posted by Cyberman View PostI had to show a passport when I bought a 'pay as you go' phone in Frankfurt in 2003. I saw no problem with this personally, as it was designed to stop criminality.
Originally posted by rootsnall View PostThey have had to prove ID in Oz for years.
There's a fundamental difference of opinion here between those of us who still think the job of the Police and courts is to investigate crimes and build cases against criminals (thereby only involving people suspected of wrongdoing), and those who think all law enforcement should be done by an automated trawl through databases to find stuff that looks dodgy where everyone is a suspect and may be required to prove otherwise at any time.
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Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View PostI love the phrase "paraphernalia of paranoia". That could catch on.
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Even the outgoing DPP thinks that nuLieBore are Nazi's.
Telegraph: Centuries of British freedoms being 'broken' by security state, says Sir Ken Macdonald
In his wide-ranging speech, Sir Ken appeared to condemn a series of key Government policies, attacking terrorism proposals - including 42 day detention - identity card plans and the “paraphernalia of paranoia”.
Instead, he said, the Government should insist that “our rights are priceless” and that: “The best way to face down those threats is to strengthen our institutions rather than to degrade them.”
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostDo you know it would be any different? Are you 100% it would be no different?
What if it might be 50% different, and different can't possibly be any worse for you and your family?
Isn't worth voting Conservative even if you can hadly see it being any different as long as you can't see it being any worse?
The Tories would cut services, increase taxes, increase crime, increase immigration etc. I'll stick with the devil I know thanks.
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostI don't see that the tories would be any different.
What if it might be 50% different, and different can't possibly be any worse for you and your family?
Isn't worth voting Conservative even if you can hadly see it being any different as long as you can't see it being any worse?
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