Reply to: TB in India and China

[DimPrawn]

Craig, try telling Phoney Bliar that your jobs about to

[~Craig~]

[QUOTE=GiGo
He gave the example of LogicaCMG, a British-Dutch information technology company, which recently won a contract to build Real Time Gross Settlement systems for India's central bank. Several years ago, LogicaCMG shifted some of its work to Bangalore, India's technology hub, where it now employs nearly 2,000 engineers. Johnson argued the company would not have won the central bank deal without its base in Bangalore.[/QUOTE]

From personal experience; as UK-based companies are forced to compete with Offshore companies there are pressures on how much UK-based staff can be paid because of the difference between UK & Indian wages. And we are currently being told at the forementioned company "we need to keep our staff affordable because of increasing competition"

Roughly equates to "you get nothing, management get everything" and company gets 48% increase in profits

[supremepods]

Shouldn't that be "talking Bollocks"

[DimPrawn]

Oh yes. Animal Farm, 1984. Brain is malfunctioning in day due to unnutterable dullness of contract.

That wendigo avatar is not that great. I much prefer kojak's lollipop sucky one. What on earth is that one CL has now? it appears to be a mosquito on a dog turd with a bloke peering round it. Also I had not noticed the eyes wandering on owl's before or that just down to too much vodka again?

Yes Jackos lollipop sucky thing is good and she's even a bird which makes it even more satisfying. Have to admit to liking Sandy's batgirl type avatar even though she is a strapping 400lb muscle bound biker named Dave.

[hyperD]

Also I had not noticed the eyes wandering on owl's before or that just down to too much vodka again?

Thyroid related orbitopathy, dear chap, thyroid related orbitopathy...

[xoggoth]

Oh yes. Animal Farm, 1984. Brain is malfunctioning in day due to unnutterable dullness of contract.

That wendigo avatar is not that great. I much prefer kojak's lollipop sucky one. What on earth is that one CL has now? it appears to be a mosquito on a dog turd with a bloke peering round it. Also I had not noticed the eyes wandering on owl's before or that just down to too much vodka again?

[The Late, Great JC]

"It is the usual 1984 "four legs good" stufff we hear continually, "outsourcing is good, immigration is good, outsourcing is good..."

That's Animal Farm - not the pervy version!

Outsourcing can have its benefits. On the recent Bank Holiday I had to call AOL to report a fault. Twice I got routed to India and spoke to two very helpful people who were tatally unable to help me with the problem but managed to spin the whole process out for over an hour. Had this call centre not been outsourced then no doubt I would have probably been routed through to Scotland, Wales or Goerdie Land where the call centre staff would no doubt be equally unable to help me but harder to understand.

Timbo, AOL, FFS! Hang your head in shame boy!

[OwlHoot]

Can soemone please explain to me how this could possibly be of benefit to a country?

I suppose it could be argued that it makes the outsourcing country more competitative than some other country that doesn't outsource or does so less.

Not saying I necessarily agree with that, and even if true it may give only a temporary advantage but later cause even more problems on account of indigenous skill losses etc.

[OwlHoot]

What???? Are you questioning Tony's policies????
You're a thought criminal,SS, and I sentence you to twenty years in a New Labour reeducation camp. So there.

Fleety, in a way I'm glad you replaced that female avatar, because I was starting to fancy you, just as I have the hots for wendigo with his avatar.

Guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that I have ginger tendencies.

[BoredBloke]

"It is the usual 1984 "four legs good" stufff we hear continually, "outsourcing is good, immigration is good, outsourcing is good..."

That's Animal Farm - not the pervy version!

Outsourcing can have its benefits. On the recent Bank Holiday I had to call AOL to report a fault. Twice I got routed to India and spoke to two very helpful people who were tatally unable to help me with the problem but managed to spin the whole process out for over an hour. Had this call centre not been outsourced then no doubt I would have probably been routed through to Scotland, Wales or Goerdie Land where the call centre staff would no doubt be equally unable to help me but harder to understand.

[Chico]

Indian company creates 600 UK jobs

Outsourcing goes full circle

Indian technology company HCL has outsourced 600 contact centre jobs to Belfast with the support of a £4.68m grant from Invest Northern Ireland, the region's economic development organisation.

The deal was announced early this morning by the prime minister, who is currently visiting India. He said that the UK could be an important base for Asian companies wanting to expand their business into the EU.

Shiv Nadar, chairman and CEO HCL Technologies, said that his company had initially invested in Northern Ireland through a partnership with BT. He described that move as "an act of faith".

HCL is one of the top ten private employers in Northern Ireland, with a staff of nearly 2,000 people. The majority (1,720) are based in Belfast with 220 more in Armagh. ®

From The Register

As I said everyone wins

[The Lone Gunman]

There's nothing wrong with Out Sourcing the good people with the correct skills and customer facing skills will still have jobs, out sourcing your work around the world won't change that.

The people who will have problems are those who sit in dark rooms bashing out code all day never talking to an end-user.

Think of these like factory workers in a woolen mill the day before the industrial revolution brought in machinery. The out sourcing companies are just the latest Industrial Revolution - progress!

The only customer facing jobs left will involve saying things like "you are nicked son", "I am going to have to replace your entire drain system" and "would you like fries with that?" and there are simply not enough of those to go round.

[boredsenseless]

There's nothing wrong with Out Sourcing the good people with the correct skills and customer facing skills will still have jobs, out sourcing your work around the world won't change that.

The people who will have problems are those who sit in dark rooms bashing out code all day never talking to an end-user.

Think of these like factory workers in a woolen mill the day before the industrial revolution brought in machinery. The out sourcing companies are just the latest Industrial Revolution - progress!

[GiGo]

I sentence you to twenty years in a New Labour reeducation camp. So there.

New Labour Policy - NLP - Neuro Linguistic Programming

The party name change wasn't a coincidence

[Dundeegeorge]

Errm, FW

What???? Are you questioning Tony's policies????
You're a thought criminal,SS, and I sentence you to twenty years in a New Labour reeducation camp. So there.

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but we're already living in a New Labour reeducation camp.