Reply to: Labour willwin the next election - Tories gave wrong message

[d000hg]

It's a tough choice... a party who has been in power for years, and a PM who was in charge of the economy for most of that, but could be accused of doing badly... or a party where many of the top people have never had real responsibility. Who would you send into battle - an experienced but slightly elderly soldier, or an enthusiastic, naive guy just out of training?

[BrilloPad]

Osborne's "we have nothing to offer but economic pain" speech was a bad miscalculation. With the masses currently so afraid they will stick with Labour who they will trust to spend the the way out of the depression.
Hmmmmm.

Any chance of LIb DEm?

I thought not.....

[swamp]

I'm waiting for the first "bankers paid £30m bonuses at taxpayers' expense" story.

Events dear boy, etc. There is a long way to go yet, and Brown's current boost is likely to unravel just as quickly as it arrived.

[clangers272]

Highly unlikely despite the recent blip, they are after all still 12-14 points behind.

The only real effect of the current economic woes has been to buy Brown some more time.

It's not unusual for a crisis to give the incumbent a boost with the electorate. After all a government gets to act whilst all the opposition can do is talk. He appeared statement like apparently during the HBOS-Lloyds TSB merger plans but isn't that deal already unravelling?

The real trouble for Brown is that neither he nor any other politician is actually in control of the situation. Let's see how popular he is if or rather when this all spins clearly out of control.

How popular will he be when we end up floating our own version of the US bail-out?

Let's not forget that once this has all worked through the financial system it will or rather has begun to impact on the real economy. The outcome of all this is a recession. There's not a lot Brown can do to appear 'experienced' when confronted with mass job losses and repossessions.

[DimPrawn]

Surely we just need more economic migrants? Has worked a treat since Labour came to power.

[wantacontract]

No chance..

Labour is doomed....I am convinced Tories will get in...come one everyone vote Tories...

Hold on, what will they do? What can they do?

Its all fxxxed at the end of the day...

[Cyberman]

That's my point - spending cuts won't wash now.
Labour were wrong to spend in the boom, but now public spending HAS to happen and its the right thing to do.
Cutting public spending now is a recipe for disaster.

Having incorrectly voted Labour in for years, the irony is that this time the masses are right, macro-economically.

Spending cuts are ok if they are waste cuts, and there is plenty of room for manouvre there !!

[Bagpuss]

If Brown does win it will be the best comeback since John Major's unlikely early 90s win, which was also against the polls. BUT it won't happen under Brown, he hasn't got the ability or popularity. There is someone who could do it though....and his mate Mandy is back with the long knives a ready.

[sasguru]

That's my point - spending cuts won't wash now.
Labour were wrong to spend in the boom, but now public spending HAS to happen and its the right thing to do.
Cutting public spending now is a recipe for disaster.

Having incorrectly voted Labour in for years, the irony is that this time the masses are right, macro-economically.

[Bagpuss]

Are you not afraid to post from client again? In current climate sacking people for these "offences" is the best way to avoid redundancy or proper notice.

I'm at home!

[DimPrawn]

You seem to be saying they should.

No they should stick with public spending cuts, tax cuts and investments in sustainable industries and R&D. That's what they should say and that's what they should do.

The trillions £££ taken in tax over the last 10 years has been (on the whole) wasted and has brought little benefit to the taxpayers.

[Bagpuss]

No point in copying New Labour on that front.

You seem to be saying they should.

[AtW]

Or maybe the public appreciate hearing a bit of realism, rather than the usual say anything to get into power and then fail to deliver.

Are you not afraid to post from client again? In current climate sacking people for these "offences" is the best way to avoid redundancy or proper notice.

[DimPrawn]

Or maybe the public appreciate hearing a bit of realism, rather than the usual say anything to get into power and then fail to deliver.

No point in copying New Labour on that front.

[Bagpuss]

Or maybe the public appreciate hearing a bit of realism, rather than the usual say anything to get into power and then fail to deliver.