UK : the next failed state ?

[NotAllThere]

:As for the NHS: as crap as it is, anyone of us who has had to face the bills for health care everywhere else in the world will know it's value.

NHS is ok, but there are other ways that seem to work better.

I pay ~£700 a month for health insurance for the whole family, with £1000 excess. This is more than offset in the tiny NI equivalent. I can see any doctor I chose, usually same day. The longest wait I've ever had in casualty has been 45 minutes. Usually it's about 10-15 max. I've had next day MRI, same day CAT, same day to see the specialist (as opposed to the 6 months wait in the UK, and it was only that short because I was an urgent case), 3 week wait for surgery.

Poor people have their health insurance premiums subsidised by the government.

Education is also free, class sizes usually 20 or less.

Mind you, doctors and nurses in the UK are usually higher skilled, since they see an awful lot more, and get more experience. That's why the medical people here often do a couple of years in the UK.

Debt being at its highest in human history. Well, yes, it would be, wouldn't it, due to inflation. The question is whether debt as a proportion of income is higher. Or whether the proportion of debt defaulting is higher (i.e. a measure of affordability of credit - if you can pay off the loan comfortably, then it doesn't matter how big it is ).

[foritisme]

You forgot to mention the lousy weather.

[oracleslave]

i didn't realise that most of the third world had NHS for us to compare it to!

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[HairyArsedBloke]

UK : the next failed state ?

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As for the NHS: as crap as it is, anyone of us who has had to face the bills for health care everywhere else in the world will know it's value.

It is why the worlds poor flock to the UK and do crap jobs just to qualify for free health care, plus get free education for their children.

[snaw]

Some poeple just need to get out and about more, s'like hearing those old grannies worrying about yoof of today cause they sit home every evening watching crimewatch and tulipting themselves that the gas man is gonna turn up and rob'em.

[Spacecadet]

third world NHS ? You wish.

At least we are happy.

i didn't realise that most of the third world had NHS for us to compare it to!

[Another Dodgy Agent]

Blimey and not a single mention of recruitment agent's, we must be doing something wrong! :-)

[Likely]

corrupt government (gifts to new lie are more than encouraged and rewarding), police state, galoping inflation (British gas prices +35%), highest debt in human history, clueless degenerated populace (its even worse up north of UK and in its former colonies), BBC war propaganda and gratuitous threats against major nuclear powers like Russia, worst economic crisis in 60 years (words from the ******* chancellor himself), evaporation of the British middle-class, third-world NHS, economy based on thin air (house price inflation and financial leverage in London tulipy), declining oil revenues, disparition of the manufacturing base ...

third world NHS ? You wish.

At least we are happy.

[gingerjedi]

I think the NHS is much better since labour came to power... everything else is crap though.

[BrilloPad]

corrupt government (gifts to new lie are more than encouraged and rewarding), police state, galoping inflation (British gas prices +35%), highest debt in human history, clueless degenerated populace (its even worse up north of UK and in its former colonies), BBC war propaganda and gratuitous threats against major nuclear powers like Russia, worst economic crisis in 60 years (words from the ******* chancellor himself), evaporation of the British middle-class, third-world NHS, economy based on thin air (house price inflation and financial leverage in London tulipy), declining oil revenues, disparition of the manufacturing base ...

Apart fcrom that - what have the romans ever done for us?

[TimberWolf]

But apart from that you think we're doing OK, yeah?

I think apart from that he thinks we are doomed

[voodooflux]

But apart from that you think we're doing OK, yeah?

[sappatz]

corrupt government (gifts to new lie are more than encouraged and rewarding), police state, galoping inflation (British gas prices +35%), highest debt in human history, clueless degenerated populace (its even worse up north of UK and in its former colonies), BBC war propaganda and gratuitous threats against major nuclear powers like Russia, worst economic crisis in 60 years (words from the ******* chancellor himself), evaporation of the British middle-class, third-world NHS, economy based on thin air (house price inflation and financial leverage in London tulipy), declining oil revenues, disparition of the manufacturing base ...