Reply to: Murray beats Nadal

[shaunbhoy]

You're a complete tool Bagpuss. Typical pessimistic, self hating, depreciating brit - no wonder we (England/Scotland etc) lose so often, with this kind of crappy attitude towards our own sportsmen.

Hear hear!!
You must make allowances for Baggy though snaw, his family line never did get much traction on the evolutionary slope!

[oracleslave]

Nadal matured early, Murray quite clearly has taken longer to physically (And mentally) mature enough to play with the big boys at the highest level.

The guy just got to a major final, and beat the world #1, and was beaten by the best player who's ever played the game back at the top of his form, at the tender age of 21.

FWIW as someone who has qualified as a professional tennis coach and still plays the game to a reasonable standard I would have to agree with the above.

[snaw]

Yes the one with several Grand Slam titles the first aged 19, the one probably a bit tired from all that Tennis.

Murray is getting better, but he's still not good enough. Maybe by his mid 20s or maybe late 20s or maybe he'll retire with cramp

You're an expert are you? Every one (Expert that is) I've heard says he more than capable of winning a slam.

By your logic Federer at 21 was rubbish cause he hadn't won one already ...

Nadal matured early, Murray quite clearly has taken longer to physically (And mentally) mature enough to play with the big boys at the highest level.

The guy just got to a major final, and beat the world #1, and was beaten by the best player who's ever played the game back at the top of his form, at the tender age of 21. But clearly that's pretty rubbish

You're a complete tool Bagpuss. Typical pessimistic, self hating, depreciating brit - no wonder we (England/Scotland etc) lose so often, with this kind of crappy attitude towards our own sportsmen.

[Bagpuss]

What, the Nadal he just beat in the semi's?

Yes the one with several Grand Slam titles the first aged 19, the one probably a bit tired from all that Tennis.

Murray is getting better, but he's still not good enough. Maybe by his mid 20s or maybe late 20s or maybe he'll retire with cramp

[snaw]

How old was Nedal when he won his first Grand Slam?

What, the Nadal he just beat in the semi's?

[Bagpuss]

True, but he's only 21 and is going to get better. Rudeski was 25 and at his peak ...

How old was Nedal when he won his first Grand Slam?

[snaw]

So Murray has achieved the same level as Greg Rusedski i.e. getting to a grand slam final and losing

True, but he's only 21 and is going to get better. Rudeski was 25 and at his peak ...

[oracleslave]

So Murray has achieved the same level as Greg Rusedski i.e. getting to a grand slam final and losing

Am no Murray fan but there's no denying it was a good run and a good tournament for him though.

[Bagpuss]

So Murray has achieved the same level as Greg Rusedski i.e. getting to a grand slam final and losing

[ace00]

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A foolish plan given current conditions. I shall invest it in an accumulator obviousley. Only need about 18 consecutive even money winners then I can retire. Boomed.

[oracleslave]

Excellent 10 quid for me.

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[ace00]

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[Troll]

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[TimberWolf]

So I'm trying on Veetle and Justin.TV, waiting for a live feed. Anyone else watching, where has decent feeds for the UK?

Nice finds! These would put a suggestion of Radio 5 Live somewhat in the shade so I won't mention that

I didn't bother with Veetle since it required a download. Justin.TV is working okay though, if not exactly HD.

I wonder if I'll hit my ISP usage allowance...doubt it since I won't be staying up.

[d000hg]

So I'm trying on Veetle and Justin.TV, waiting for a live feed. Anyone else watching, where has decent feeds for the UK?