Reply to: ID cards

[HairyArsedBloke]

Plus they won't be able to farm the work out to India because everyone will need security clearance.

Dream on

They will all pass security clearance because they will not have any records against them.

[Bob Dalek]

ID cards will not prevent either fraud or beardies, but will take the UK a good few steps closer to a Police State. That's why they are useless. The scheme will cost loads, fail, be "fixed", cost more, fail, be "fixed", cost more, fail, .... until the universe finally reaches heat death. Meanwhile, hardly a dent will be made in the steely armour of fraudsters and bearded types. Of course, several Mr & Mrs. Average couples will, at the same time, have been fined, jailed & bankrupted by "data issues", as well as living in a Big Brother world, where playing by the rules will simply mean more taxes and fewer freedoms.

[Spacecadet]

What and be associated with one of the biggest IT disasters in history?

Thats NPfIT... nothing to do with the ID card scheme

[zathras]

Totally agree, any IT contractor should be backing ID cards whole heartedly

What and be associated with one of the biggest IT disasters in history?

[Spacecadet]

From a selfish point of view, there could be loads of freelance work involved in setting up, the new NPfIT, could keep us going to retirement and probably still not deliver.

Ker-ching

toot-toot, all aboard the id card gravy train

Totally agree, any IT contractor should be backing ID cards whole heartedly

[Peoplesoft bloke]

So unfortunately no one is prepared to justify the government scheme. It's a shame that proponents of it melt away when challenged on the details.

[swamp]

ID cards will mean loads of work for contractors.

Plus they won't be able to farm the work out to India because everyone will need security clearance.

[BA to the Stars]

I anticipate they'll have some problems with the Daleks & Cyberpersons...

A PC lizard. Whatever next

[BA to the Stars]

From a selfish point of view, there could be loads of freelance work involved in setting up, the new NPfIT, could keep us going to retirement and probably still not deliver.

Ker-ching

toot-toot, all aboard the id card gravy train

[OwlHoot]

After WW2 the Labour Government (1945 - 1950) wanted to keep ID documents, and it was the Chief Justice at the time, Lord Goddard, who ruled that they were being used beyond their intended purpose and tended to cause hostility to the police by in effect criminalizing everyone.

The Tory government, who by that time (1952) were back in office, went along with that and ID documents were duly abolished.

So what has changed since? Yes there are loads more foreigners and immigrants here these days; but they are (or will be) obliged to carry ID cards anyway.

[TimberWolf]

Maybe we'll see photo booths replaced by combined photo, fingerprint, retina scan and DNA sample booths.

Yep, that sounds very secure

These things can only work under supervised conditions. At minimum you'd have to have possess some kind of secret too, such as a pin number.

[DodgyAgent]

What worries me is that I have a certain amount of control of information about myself. I can control to an extent what I want people to know about me, from where I live to where I shop, to where I travel and what opinions I have. A central ID system strips away a lot of what I can control.

The old "nothing to hide" argument is fine, but you should understand that how others view and interpret information is not always objective, or as we would wish it to be interpreted.

[VectraMan]

I could envision sperm sample booths being popular

What would be the equivalent for women?

[Diver]

I think they will moan like anything, but once it's done people will accept it. We're an apathetic lot.

Maybe we'll see photo booths replaced by combined photo, fingerprint, retina scan and DNA sample booths.

I could envision sperm sample booths being popular

[VectraMan]

Do you think people will be ok with being summoned to their local office to have their prints taken?

I think they will moan like anything, but once it's done people will accept it. We're an apathetic lot.

Maybe we'll see photo booths replaced by combined photo, fingerprint, retina scan and DNA sample booths.