Yet another New Lie policy mistake ?

[VectraMan]

Totally agree - I've carried a donor card for 20+ years and I'm on the register, but if they do this I'll opt out. I am not the property of the state.

You'll go the extra mile to help save somebody else's life in the event of your death, but if you don't have to do anything extra you expect them to die?

Or are you only in it so you can show off your donor card? The phrase "He does a lot of work for charity; doesn't like to talk about it" springs to mind.

[BoredBloke]

As my wife has benefited from a transplant, I for one agree with this bill. My wife was lucky in that her mum was her donor so she didn't have to get hooked up to a machine 3 times a week for 4 hours a go. There are loads of people waiting for kidney transplants and loads more operation s could be done if more kidneys became available.

I think if you know somebody who has had a transplant or who needs one then I think you will be for this bill. It's horrible to watch somebody you love suffering and slowly getting worse, knowing that people are dying in hospitals with organs that might be compatible and could prevent this. I realise that people are against the state ownership of your organs, but I don't buy into the whole thing about doctors giving up on a patient simply because they can harvest their organs. It costs loads to do a transplant and the after care is extensive also. In many cases it would be easier and cheaper to let the person needing the transplant pop their clogs on the waiting list and fix up the probable donor.

[Churchill]

If they did this I'll opt out.

I'm currently on the donor register and carry a card. Though I just oppose the idea of "assuming consent" for anything.

That imo is the crux of the matter.

"Soylent Green" sandwich, anyone?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

If they did this I'll opt out.

I'm currently on the donor register and carry a card. Though I just oppose the idea of "assuming consent" for anything.

Totally agree - I've carried a donor card for 20+ years and I'm on the register, but if they do this I'll opt out. I am not the property of the state.

[Turion]

Yes, but those people that carry donor cards must already have weighed this up. It is why I do not carry a donor card because I have heard some bad stories of patients being allowed to die. If they bring this law in, I will opt out.

They've already thought of that. They will make it very difficult for you to opt out. You will have to jump through a few hoops, like register every year, within a deadline to opt out, plus supply a valid reason, identity proofs and address etc just to ensure someone is not trying to do it for you! and of course the obligatory admin fee . Agencies will probably spring up to do it for you conveniently for a price.

An NHS spokesperson claimed "the opt out process may seem complicated, but it's purpose is to protect the minority of individuals who choose a path divergent to our collective society" He later added that those who opted out for non-religious reasons were being selfish.

[Cyberman]

Do you think your "conflict of interest" already happens where the patient is a card-carrying organ donor?

Yes, but those people that carry donor cards must already have weighed this up. It is why I do not carry a donor card because I have heard some bad stories of patients being allowed to die. If they bring this law in, I will opt out.

[Sockpuppet]

If they did this I'll opt out.

I'm currently on the donor register and carry a card. Though I just oppose the idea of "assuming consent" for anything.

[thunderlizard]

Do you think your "conflict of interest" already happens where the patient is a card-carrying organ donor?

[Cyberman]

You know the rules. Linky or it isn't true.

it's true!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7595450.stm

[TykeMerc]

I've registered on the donor register http://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/Consent.do

I know several people who're walking around now as a result of successful transplants. As far as I'm concerned if I cark it I've got no use for any bits they can recycle to save someones life or suffering.

Personally speaking I've got no issues with changing the system from opt in to opt out, it's a moral issue not a political one.

[foritisme]

This is an extreme example, but what for instance if a doctor's family member required an organ within a few hours to survive and there was a perfect potential donor organ in a patient in intensive care in the same hospital. Would that doctor do everything to save that patient ?

Crap ! If they were that way inclined they could quite easily slip a donor card in the dying patients pocket.

[Pondlife]

You know the rules. Linky or it isn't true.

[Cyberman]

At the moment organ donors carry an opt-in card. In future it is proposed that people would have had to have opted out.

This is quite worrying to me as I can see doubts creeping in as to whether doctors did enough to save a dying patient. There could be a conflict of interest here. This is an extreme example, but what for instance if a doctor's family member required an organ within a few hours to survive and there was a perfect potential donor organ in a patient in intensive care in the same hospital. Would that doctor do everything to save that patient ?

Yet again, as in declassification of cannibis, I don't think that this policy has been thought through properly .