Reply to: Confused of Manchester

[Diver]

I would always favour driving along between both lanes at high speed and if stopped by the fuzz point out the bit on your licence that says "tear along dotted line".
Sorry!

[EternalOptimist]

I would always favour driving along between both lanes at high speed and if stopped by the fuzz point out the bit on your licence that says "tear along dotted line".
Sorry!

it's not sorry

it's igmc (I'll get me coat - eric and ernie) - funny though

tear along the dotted line

must add that to me repetoire

[SteveCo]

I would always favour driving along between both lanes at high speed and if stopped by the fuzz point out the bit on your licence that says "tear along dotted line".
Sorry!

[Diver]

Port and starboard are obviously too hard for our new generations of media studies graduates to understand. I propose we switch to using "right" and "no, the other right".

[PRC1964]

Port and starboard are obviously too hard for our new generations of media studies graduates to understand. I propose we switch to using "right" and "no, the other right".

[TimberWolf]

Hardly new words, they've been doing it since before medieval times.

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.17900

Yep, a hangup from ancient times, and like fathoms and chains we should strive to rid ourselves of nasty confusing imperial measures that still abound and not revel in the delusion that duplicate words add intrinsic value or circumvent the relative nature of everything, which includes left and right and orientation. Seafarers continue to use antiquated units for speed too, and probably distance FFS.

Starboard, I'm thinking there is little port to say on this.

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It is not "talk like a pirate" day for nearly a month. Calm down old thing.

[zathras]

The road I come to work on has only two lanes. The recent discussion about middle laners being no brainers has left me confused.

Which lane should I use ?

The left one - the same one you should use if there is three lanes!

[DaveB]

How are port and starboard defined? Right and left could be defined the same as these on a ship. Making up new words to do this doesn't alter anything except add new words.

Hardly new words, they've been doing it since before medieval times.

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.17900

[Diver]

Turn right. Turn left. Simple enough. If somehow reversing, then issue instructions along the lines of, "Reverse and steer left." Bringing sailing terminology down to the level of road users' terminology would, though, never be accepted by the mouse droppings that like to sail. I have (once was once too much) sailed with sailing luvees, and their snooty ways made me feel sicker than the swell of the water ever could.

1/2 astern 10 degrees port rudder....easy

[TimberWolf]

Because Right and left on a ship would never change, whereas right and left for the people aboard would still change relative to their orientation. this would cause even more confusion.

Port is always the same side of the vessel no matter which way you are facing. so if you say go to port there is only one way you can possibly go.

How are port and starboard defined? Right and left could be defined the same as these on a ship. Making up new words to do this doesn't alter anything except add new words.

[Bob Dalek]

Because that would depend on which way you were facing.
Giving the helmsman instruction to go deg right when when going astern, when he is facing forward when you are facing aft could be a tad confusing for both parties.

Facing Forward (bow) Port is Left Stb'd is Right. Nav Lights are Port Red Stb'd Green. (easy to remember if you think of a glass of port being red)

Turn right. Turn left. Simple enough. If somehow reversing, then issue instructions along the lines of, "Reverse and steer left." Bringing sailing terminology down to the level of road users' terminology would, though, never be accepted by the mouse droppings that like to sail. I have (once was once too much) sailed with sailing luvees, and their snooty ways made me feel sicker than the swell of the water ever could.

[TimberWolf]

Diver explained. a glass of port is red. right?
what color is a glass of left ? exactermon:

If they wanted to use new words they might just as well have used gauche and droit

[Diver]

Why not define 'right' and 'left' on a ship to be as the new defined words define right and left rather than make up new words for them? The new words seem to add nothing.

Because Right and left on a ship would never change, whereas right and left for the people aboard would still change relative to their orientation. this would cause even more confusion.

Port is always the same side of the vessel no matter which way you are facing. so if you say go to port there is only one way you can possibly go.

[EternalOptimist]

Why not define 'right' and 'left' on a ship to be as the new defined words define right and left rather than make up new words for them? The new words seem to add nothing.

Diver explained. a glass of port is red. right?
what color is a glass of left ? exactermont