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Originally posted by Ardesco View PostFar too americanised, whats wrong with the grey jump suits with arrows on them like in the old days? Let the americans have thier silly orange jump suits, make our "lags" wear good old fashioned British styled clothing!!
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Originally posted by Ardesco View PostDisagree, I'm a perfectly well adjusted member of society and I didn't have the cane. What we need to do is stop deriding teachers and back them up. My wife is a teacher and the sad fact is that these days children who get in trouble at school go home and tell thier parents, then thier parents charge into school threatening to "sort out" the teacher who has punished them. What do you think these parents are going to do if a teacher canes thier little darling?
When I was at school if I had ever been in trouble at school, or god forbid brought home by the police I knew that I would have had a strip torn out of me at home and my life would not be worth living for the next few weeks. Parents need to be taught to respect teachers and back teachers up. They also need to learn that it is not teachers who are supposed to bring up thier children, it is them. I have heard far too many stories of some chavvy parent moaning that thier little darling got into a life of crime because the teachers at school did not keep them on the straight and narrow when it is actually thier responsibility to do it and not the teachers.
Giving some kid a caning every day is going to do nothing if they get home and the parents tell them they are in the right and the teacher is in the wrong, all it will do is breed more contempt for teachers and teachers will suffer when more violence is aimed at them in revenge.
Teachers have no respect and kids think they can do what they want, sure it probably won't happen but it should.
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[QUOTE=Ardesco;584965]Obviously don't know much about the situation then, the problem is that half of the country doesn't want to be given to the Irish. How are you going to placate them? [QUOTE]
It was only a last minute change in the 1920's that held on to the six counties of Ulster. My point it is not our problem to placate the ones that want to stay British, they can come and live in the UK if they wish but Ireland is not our problem.
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Originally posted by Waldorf View Post1. Make anyone doing community service, wear bright orange jump suits so we can see that they are taking their punishment.
Originally posted by Waldorf View Post4. Bring back corporal punishment in schools.
When I was at school if I had ever been in trouble at school, or god forbid brought home by the police I knew that I would have had a strip torn out of me at home and my life would not be worth living for the next few weeks. Parents need to be taught to respect teachers and back teachers up. They also need to learn that it is not teachers who are supposed to bring up thier children, it is them. I have heard far too many stories of some chavvy parent moaning that thier little darling got into a life of crime because the teachers at school did not keep them on the straight and narrow when it is actually thier responsibility to do it and not the teachers.
Giving some kid a caning every day is going to do nothing if they get home and the parents tell them they are in the right and the teacher is in the wrong, all it will do is breed more contempt for teachers and teachers will suffer when more violence is aimed at them in revenge.
Originally posted by Waldorf View Post5. Introduce a "Bad Lads Army" for repeated yobs who need sorting out.
Originally posted by Waldorf View Post6. Fixed penalties for litter, enforced by litter wardens with clout.
Originally posted by Waldorf View Post7. Give Northern Ireland back to the Irish.
Originally posted by Waldorf View Post8. Look after the armed forces with decent pay and accommodation.
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1. Dealing with the obesity problem
Get kids cooking. Ban all packed lunches, slipping out to the chippy, etc.
Instead, during the lunch break, the kids actually use the canteen under supervision, to cook their food in groups. They get actively involved and choose their meal, prepare it, and cook it. In essence, lunchtime becomes an "extra lesson" in hands-on home economics. These skills will set them up for life.
2. Instilling Discipline and Learning Additional Skills
National Service from 18 (can be taken from 16 if requested) until 20.
3. Abundance of Alcohol
Use the model in several European countries, where alcohol is regulated by the state, and sold in specific licensed shops or bars. Ban the sale from corner shops, supermarkets, garages, etc.
4. Road Tax
Flat rate for all users of the road (bicycles, horses, bikes, cars, lorries, etc)
5. Crime
Stocks, Flogging and ultimately the Death Penalty for the most serious cases.
Deportation of non-nationals when crimes are severe enough.
6. Employment
Encouragement of worker/shareholder collectives, which spread the welath generated rather than channel it up to the top.
7. Self-Sufficiency
Attractive tax breaks for companies who manufacture within the UK. Make it worth their while coming here.
8. Social Care / Medicine
Continue with the "free at source" model, but improve standards of care, cleanliness, and reduce bureaucracy. More front line workers.
9. Housing
Form a nationalised Government Housing Corporation, which is basically "Barratt Homes" but run not-for-profit. This would reduce the margin on house construction by approximately 60-75%. The GHC are also entitled to ring-fence areas for their sole development, to avoid speculative land developers snatching the land for massive profit.
10. Welfare
For those who are out of work, but in between work, they can enlist on a number of governent work to welfare schemes. Bin collecting, rubbish clearance, even a stint at the Housing corporation, or any 1 of a 100 local community projects. All labour in = working credits out. Credits are used claim payments.
Those incapable of work, long term sick, etc are obviously provided for (and yearly assessments made by their doctor)
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1. Make anyone doing community service, wear bright orange jump suits so we can see that they are taking their punishment.
2. Prison sentences to be completed in full.
3. Simplify the tax system.
4. Bring back corporal punishment in schools.
5. Introduce a "Bad Lads Army" for repeated yobs who need sorting out.
6. Fixed penalties for litter, enforced by litter wardens with clout.
7. Give Northern Ireland back to the Irish.
8. Look after the armed forces with decent pay and accommodation.
9. Reform the benefits system, cap the total amount someone can have, so ending cases of some receiving £30K in hand outs.
10. Abolish IR35!
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If I was this prime minister I'd throw my c***ting self off the top of Canary Wharf.
C***.
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Originally posted by zeitghostNailing your head to the floor...
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostThey threw tantrums, upended their latrine bucket over a sergeant, handcuffed a guard to the prison bars with a pair of stolen cuffs
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostAdmittedly this is from Wikipedia, but that doesn't make it automatically wrong
Their behaviour in prison was allegedly so bad that in the end they were given a dishonourable discharge from the service; for the last few weeks of their imprisonment, when their fate was a certainty anyway, they ruled the holding room they were in. They threw tantrums, upended their latrine bucket over a sergeant, handcuffed a guard to the prison bars with a pair of stolen cuffs, and burned their bedding. Eventually they were discharged, but not before escaping from the guardhouse and being recaptured by the army one last time.
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostThat is just not true! They always used to shake your hand before putting the boot in.
Their behaviour in prison was allegedly so bad that in the end they were given a dishonourable discharge from the service; for the last few weeks of their imprisonment, when their fate was a certainty anyway, they ruled the holding room they were in. They threw tantrums, upended their latrine bucket over a sergeant, handcuffed a guard to the prison bars with a pair of stolen cuffs, and burned their bedding. Eventually they were discharged, but not before escaping from the guardhouse and being recaptured by the army one last time.
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostThe Krays. They did National Service according to the BBC website - it didn't teach them any respect for society or the law at all.
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