Question for Dodgy Agent

[Not So Wise]

lol diamond, they still actually around? came across them around 2001 when agency i went though went bankrupt (side ventures in renting out pc equipment is bad idea m'kay!!) Diamond somehow bought up all their contracts without taking up the commitment to pay all the missing money the contractors were owed. They thought they had me...till i told them to go f**k themselves and just handed the contract to my laywer.

[ScOrPiOn]

Hey Dodgy Agent re: http://dodgycontracts.4t.com/diamond.html

SHOCKING!!

[ScOrPiOn]

All depends on the individual person at the agency. I'd just tell them the truth but in a gentle way!

[DodgyAgent]

lying

they LIE.

Remember the time when the agent last said to you, unfortunately they decided to hire internally?

Yep, they were lying then too...

http://dodgycontracts.4t.com/diamond.html

"They have hired someone more suitable than you"

Best answer (provided it is true) as it covers most reasons. It is not necessary to tell lies

[DodgyAgent]

Touche

Trust me optimist I have been doing this job for fifty years I know what I am talking about

[EternalOptimist]

Listen Dodgy

just cos that approach has always worked in the past doesnt mean its right for today. Rethink your approach !!

You dont think you might be getting a bit old for this do you ???

[cabrun]

Dodgy agents will say the same thing to employers as they do to contractors....

they LIE.

Remember the time when the agent last said to you, unfortunately they decided to hire internally?

Yep, they were lying then too...

http://dodgycontracts.4t.com/diamond.html

[Mailman]

Now come on...we know you dont mean that!

Mailman

[SupremeSpod]

What people say is not always what they mean.

Bollocks!

[DodgyAgent]

Spin

Dodgy, I've often wondered what agents tell a client when a contractor (or candidate) isn't interested in the role after an interview.
For example, contractor attends the interview, notices the client is a complete arse, bound to be trouble and look bad on the CV, so doesn't want to progress any further.

What do you tell the client during that all important 'feedback' call? I ask because I'm as sure as hell you don't tell the client the contractor is no longer interested.

"He does not feel that the job is quite what he wishes to do"
"He thinks you are a twat" (no no!)
"He has a more suitable offer pending from elsewhere"

It is all about giving both parties a "soft landing" whist at the same time keeping the door open. There is little point in shutting the door "bluntly" as quite often circumstances change or more likely the reasons why the contractor does not want the job (or for that matter the reasons why the client rejects the contractor) are quite different from the reasons that they give.
We had an instance with regard to start date. The contractor turned down the job because he thought that the start date was beyond him. He did not want to admit this and threw up another barrier. He was asked the question "if the start date was changed would you take the job?". The client then agreed to his start date.
These things seem small and simple, but they are very important and they recur time and time again. I am sure that a lot of you have similar experiences from your day to day working lives.
What people say is not always what they mean.

[Crazyhorse]

Well I'm not an agent but I have an idea that money might come into it.

[WageSlave]

Dodgy, I've often wondered what agents tell a client when a contractor (or candidate) isn't interested in the role after an interview.
For example, contractor attends the interview, notices the client is a complete arse, bound to be trouble and look bad on the CV, so doesn't want to progress any further.

What do you tell the client during that all important 'feedback' call? I ask because I'm as sure as hell you don't tell the client the contractor is no longer interested.