Reply to: Indian/Pakistani MCSEs

[SueEllen]

have you ever considered taking on a British citizen? Just a thought.

There's a skills shortage don't you know.


British Citizens don't lie as well on their CVs about the skills they don't have but can pick up easily if bothered. Plus they cost too much.

[Flashman]

we were totally fed up Friday with a lack of performance so we booked three Pakistanis in for aptidude tests that they managed to bypass due to CV lies. We'll know tomorrow night if we're redeploying them to our callcenter.

have you ever considered taking on a British citizen? Just a thought.

[DGK]

fed up

we were totally fed up Friday with a lack of performance so we booked three Pakistanis in for aptidude tests that they managed to bypass due to CV lies. We'll know tomorrow night if we're redeploying them to our callcenter.

[Clippy]

This country is going down hill fast.

Wind your neck in.

[DGK]

This country is going down hill fast.

[lilelvis2000]

Strange, you seem to have a very biased view against Pakistanis for no obvious reason.

My experience is that there are just as many Indians playing the system as there are Pakistanis, Africans, home grown white's, etc. The big advantage that many from countries like India/Pakistan have, is that they are used to dealing with corruption and know how to work with it to their advantage.

Seems all the immigrants from Asia and Africa play the systems. They get away with it. I only wish I had the guts.

But up here...it is mainly Pakistani immigrants around..and they mainly are involved in drugs, financial scam, prostitution. etc.. So as one sees other cultures rarely..around here anyway..one gets a indepth view of one. I admit everyone does it to some degree.

[oracleslave]

Who said you have to work for an Indian company? I meant being the link man for the company doing the outsourcing. There is is a serious shortage of people who can do this successfully, in my experience.

[realityhack]

At least in the UK, where management is seen as a status rather than an activity.

Indeed.

[ChimpMaster]

If you think Indian/Pakistani cv's are bad try reading a few Nigerian ones. I've never seen one of these guys extended. Thing is, most are found out more or less immediately but are then given the opportunity to ride out the full 6/12 month contract cos the bloke who hired them doesn't want to look like a tit.

You'd think that their initial email about wanting to transfer their client's $45m would be a giveaway.

[Moscow Mule]

If you think Indian/Pakistani cv's are bad try reading a few Nigerian ones. I've never seen one of these guys extended. Thing is, most are found out more or less immediately but are then given the opportunity to ride out the full 6/12 month contract cos the bloke who hired them doesn't want to look like a tit.

There's an interesting thing about some Nigerian cultures, you are actually considered high social-status if you can get money/goods for doing nothing. Results in an warped (to our eyes) work ethic...

[Sausage Surprise]

If you think Indian/Pakistani cv's are bad try reading a few Nigerian ones. I've never seen one of these guys extended. Thing is, most are found out more or less immediately but are then given the opportunity to ride out the full 6/12 month contract cos the bloke who hired them doesn't want to look like a tit.

[expat]

Any reasonably unintelligent person can be a manager, you just have to be a big bloke or heavy set, as most are. Intelligence has little or nothing to do with management.

At least in the UK, where management is seen as a status rather than an activity.

[Francko]

I earned my living as a coding contractor for more than 10 years which I would bet is more than you managed. Unlike you, however, I could also see the bigger picture and moved on from coding.

HTH

Unfortunately I did that too and I regret it. If only they offer more money for developer positions I would go back everyday. Well, cleaning up the mess of what you describe as an easy job kept my skills up-to-date so I am ready to jump anytime they will understand this big mistake.

[TimberWolf]

Yes that seems to be pretty much the attitude. Which is why probably around 75% of large UK IT projects fail.

I wasn't referring to IT especially, managers in general are usually big blokes.

[sasguru]

Any reasonably unintelligent person can be a manager, you just have to be a big bloke or heavy set, as most are. Intelligence has little or nothing to do with management.

Yes that seems to be pretty much the attitude. Which is why probably around 75% of large UK IT projects fail.