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[xoggoth]

'fraid I agree with Sunnysan. Shoot (or stab better as it is so much more artistic!) enough politicians and all our other problems would go away. If we stabbed them in huge numbers in accordance with the sacred rituals it would usher in an era of paradise on earth and the lion would lay down with the lamb (sho nuff but I saw it first the horny little minx!). I AM CONVINCED and will not consider any uninformed bollox to the contrary!

[AtW]

Erm, does the shoot to kill policy apply to lying politicians as well?

Keep some perspective dude - lying politicians are scumbags but they don't kill 20 in underground by blowing themselves up. Politicians kill far more through inaction (like not investing enough into cancer research), but this is thought to be acceptable losses to the society.

[planetit]

WTF did they not stop him and search him before he even got near the tube? Or even detain him before he even got out of bed.

Just guessing, but presumably because they hoped he would lead them to the other terrorists?

[sunnysan]

Well...

He was an idiot to try and run away...

Erm, does the shoot to kill policy apply to lying politicians as well?

[AtW]

WTF did they not stop him and search him before he even got near the tube? Or even detain him before he even got out of bed.

They could not -- officers were undercover in plain clothes, so they must have stood near barriers and look for people, once they seen him they challenged him but he disobeyed and tried to run to trains: in current context shooting that guy is perfectly justifiable in my view.

[WageSlave]

Very cynically I think it may have been a ploy to appease the embattled public with a bit of bloodletting.

I don't know. Shooting a suspect is a major decision to take, and if an officer gets it wrong his career is ruined and faces a potential criminal charge.

[sunnysan]

Eh?

Ok so he was suspected of being a bomber, and he was being tailed from his home.

WTF did they not stop him and search him before he even got near the tube? Or even detain him before he even got out of bed.

I suspect if he was a strong enough supect to shoot, why not at the very least detain him and subject him to "intensive" interrogation(Thats what they call kicking the sh!t out of someone in custody these days). Surely his statements would have been more valuable than his corpse with no head.

I am sure that the officers responsible for blowing him away acted appropriately given the circumstances, but I still cannot fathom why they let him get near to the tube.

Very cynically I think it may have been a ploy to appease the embattled public with a bit of bloodletting.

[WageSlave]

Wage as I understand it was five shots in the head. The guy was pursued, challenged and he ran into the tube station, jumped the ticket barriers, run the escalators or stairs and then ran unto the platform and then got unto the train with armed police behind him. He deserved it mate - as Owlhoot mentioned earlier - he deserves the Darwin Award.

I agree that his behaviour justified the police response, especially if he was a suspect from yesterday's attempted bombing. In that situation there is good reason to believe he was on a suicide mission.

[Chico]

Wage as I understand it was five shots in the head. The guy was pursued, challenged and he ran into the tube station, jumped the ticket barriers, run the escalators or stairs and then ran unto the platform and then got unto the train with armed police behind him. He deserved it mate - as Owlhoot mentioned earlier - he deserves the Darwin Award.

[WageSlave]

Is that head rolling of contractors in Iraq as a result of this?

AtW, I see you're a big fan of the British police.

One question: firing five shots into the suspect....wouldn't that risk triggering the explosives? Being ignorant about explosives (and most things), genuine question.

[AtW]

Exactly, and only a few seconds to reach a decision. And that's why we really need intelligent, well trained police.

Its too early to say things definitevely, but if that guy tried to escape police and just run to the train then he should not have been suprised to get himself dead -- in current environment one has to be fecked in the head to act like that, I think armed police performed brilliantly (did not kill anyone else) and if the guy had explosive on him then the police should get medal or two.

[Not So Wise]

Ouch, no explosives? they better have good cause to suspect him besides what he was wearing then or heads are likely to roll, especially if they shot him while he was on the ground

[WageSlave]

From Yahoo news

Tailing The Tube Suicide Bomb Suspect
Specialist officers had been tailing the man shot at Stockwell Tube station from his home, says Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt.Police believed the Asian man was responsible for an attempted attack on the nearby Oval Tube on Thursday and had set up surveillance on him.Brunt said officers had followed the man from his home and that the initial plan was to arrest him.

But from his home to Stockwell Tube, events overtook police and marksmen were forced to shoot.

Despite temperatures of around 22C (72F), officers and witnesses said the man was wearing a heavy coat under which it was feared may have been a bomb.

Brunt said: "Intelligence officers had suggested he was the bomber from Thursday.

"Officers were confronted with the very real possibility that this man did have a bomb."

Initial examinations though, said Brunt, did not discover any explosives on the suspect.

[WageSlave]

Was he? I thought his final report said he was a crap shot?

Not as good as the original image, but couldn't post it.

[Lucifer Box]

I'm sure Threaded could provide the training. He was a crack shot at Sandhurst.

Was he? I thought his final report said he was a crap shot?