Reply to: 100 work permits issued per day!

[threaded]

Thinking about this some more & it all becomes clearer... Blair made a pledge that he would 'solve' the number of Asylum seekers problem...easy way is to issue work permits for all & sundry even the unskilled... problem solved

Gosh, you don't say!

[Troll]

Thinking about this some more & it all becomes clearer... Blair made a pledge that he would 'solve' the number of Asylum seekers problem...easy way is to issue work permits for all & sundry even the unskilled... problem solved

[Troll]

Bring em in I say, but only the ladies.

Is it cos I is sexist?

LONDON (Reuters) - The government is to create a dedicated police-led task force to combat the sex-trafficking of women, the UK Human Trafficking Centre.

The announcement came at the conclusion of a four-month long police operation that resulted in the rescue of more than 80 women, some as young as 14, believed to have been trafficked mainly from Eastern Europe, Africa and the Far East.

Home Office minister Vernon Coaker announced the task force at a news conference where the results of Operation Pentameter were unveiled by the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO).
"These women were conned and deceived into believing a better life was awaiting them in the UK," said South Yorkshire's Deputy Chief Constable Grahame Maxwell, who led the operation.

[AttitudeAdjuster]

Man, some of the misinformation on this website cracks me up. For one thing, you have to demonstrate that its is a position for which you require a degree or experience equivilant to a degree. How does a degree relate to waitressing?

Also, you have to detail (with evidence) why you didnt employ each and every suitable applicant from the EU labour pool. You cant just say I interviewed 10 people and didnt like them.

Actually this is exactly what goes does on. When the PCG (bless 'em) tried to get some action from the Home Office over blatent visa abuse, such as the ICT option, there was a lot of foot dragging and excuses (did you know that as a contractor you CAN be replaced by a cheaper overseas worker - legally?) but AFAIK no procecutions.

[meridian]

I think the Home Office deserve a couple of for managing to issue that many per day. Didn't think anyone actually worked there, thought they just scanned applications looking for sexy Brazilian girls to pester for sex in return for visas....

[BlasterBates]

It would also be interesting to know how many work permits expire each month.

Looking at May - 49 and January - 227, I suspect more work permits in May expired than were issued.

The most worrying thing about the numbers is the fact they're going down so much.

Does that mean we're in for a recession

[Churchill]

Bring em in I say, but only the ladies.

Is it cos I is sexist?

Nope, it is coz you is ugly and hope to eventually get your leg over.

hth.

[Mailman]

Here is a sample:

May 05 :2, 049
Apr 05 : 2, 111
Mar 05 : 2, 186
Feb 05 : 1, 986
Jan 05 : 2, 227

These are NEW issues, not the number of permits in force. This is roughly 100 new permits issued each and every working day.

To be really meaningful it would be interested to find have a break down by industry AND a break down of permits issued per country.

Because, personally, the types of people you actually want in this country would come from New Zealand (of course ), Australia and South Africa. These countries have very similar societies to Englands and people from these countries have proven time and time again to have the ability to assimilate with poms (or should that be "to be able to stand poms for any length of time without having to resort to detonating on a bus or in a train).

The types of people you dont want are those from countries who's social and religious make up are at polar opposites to England, ie. anywhere in the middle east or Asia.

I mean, if any Australian DARED to detonate himself on a train there is no farken way in HELL that other Australians in England would call for the government to stop the police doing their job! No, what would happen is the buggers surviving family would probably get bitch slapped by someones jandel and told to move to PNG!

And thus ends Mailmans thoughtful rant for the day

Mailman

[DimPrawn]

Bring em in I say, but only the ladies.

Is it cos I is sexist?

[Rangster]

its relatively simple to get a work permit if you have an employee that is willing to sponser you. It always helps it you have a degree etc but the process can be manipulated so that, for example, if someone is working as waitress and the have a willing employer.

If you have a willing employer you can nearly always present the person in a light that, according to home office criteria they will be issued a work permit.

The emplyer has to advertise but the dont have to emply any of applicants and once the required time running the advertisment is over, they can justify that they cannot find a suitable applicant in the EU labour pool.

I would be interested in how many where actually realted to IT skills.

Man, some of the misinformation on this website cracks me up. For one thing, you have to demonstrate that its is a position for which you require a degree or experience equivilant to a degree. How does a degree relate to waitressing?

Also, you have to detail (with evidence) why you didnt employ each and every suitable applicant from the EU labour pool. You cant just say I interviewed 10 people and didnt like them.

[ASB]

Is that all?

100 a day equates to 25k per year more or less. Approximately 0.1% of the working population. As aTw points out it excludes in country transfers. Statistically insignificant in a flexible labour market.

Compare it to the amount of people permanently leaving the UK which is rather more than 25k.

If you are trying to stir up a fresh spot of jingoism you could at least try and find a figure that justifies the "shock horror" type approach.

Of course the increasing size of the labour pool versus those authorised to be in it might be more relevant.

[AtW]

Tourists not allowed to switch status in-country, unless its asylum, never heard of doctors getting better treatment -- they have easy ways in anyway to do that. I think Govt is just sh1t scared that one of the immigrants who was let in without 100% passes formalities will turn out a terrorist -- imagine headlines in the Sun talking about failed non-deported asylum seeker turning a bomber?

[hattra]

Things might be changing

It would be interesting to get those figures again, in another few months time, because it looks as if government policy has changed.

Mrs Hattra regularly has to get work permits for medical doctors, and up until about a month ago, there were all sorts of abuses "slipping through" the system. The most common one was entering the UK on a tourist visa, and then finding a job while in-country and applying for it - this is actually illegal, but lots of foreign doctors were being allowed to get away with it. However, in the last four weeks, three of the doctors at her hospital have been told to leave the country, because a "review" of their case has shown that they had done just that. And yesterday, they rejected another doctors work permit application, even though she's actually sponsored by the UK Government on an international exchange program, and has been given extended leave to stay by the Foreign Office - so now she can stay in the country for the next 3 years, but can't work!

Unfortunately, the hospital departments involved (usually the ones run by foreign consultants) keep lodging formal complaints about Mrs. Hattra (once of racism), when it's nothing to do with her. None of them are ever upheld, but it gets very stressful for her.

[AtW]

its relatively simple to get a work permit if you have an employee that is willing to sponser you. It always helps it you have a degree etc but the process can be manipulated so that, for example, if someone is working as waitress and the have a willing employer.

Yeah real easy -- if the firm on behalf of which that "employee" applies is unknown to Home Office, ie have not applied before for work permit, then the firm need to show I believe audited accounts for last 3 years. Not sure what's HO's practice in regards of newly created firms that have no accoutn no nothing, but from what I understand this means no chance of issueing work permit.

By the way, NEW work permits include IN-COUNTRY CHANGES, ie when I changed my job from ex-ex-empoloyer to ex-employer I needed "NEW" work permit, but I was not a NEW person in the country.

[Not So Wise]

Does that include or exclude the Aussie,Kiwi and such Working Holiday (or whatever they are calling them now) visas?