Reply to: Teachers today

[Moscow Mule]

Needless to say, the cops have never taken me home to my mums again!

It's all-together much more fun just sleeping in a field somewhere.

[scooby]

Well of course. I did a lot of things as a kid that make me cringe to think back on now. The casual cruelty to man and beast. The making of annoyance - just for the sake of it - just because we could.

Kids are basically pretty 'evil' in their natural state. By that, I don't mean that they are actually possessed by the Devil, or something, but that they don't know right from wrong.

Kids need parents (or other mentors) to instill the values of civilization, otherwise they are utter brutes, without care or thought for others.

It took thousands of years for humans to become civilized and respect each other. Maybe we had a 'Golden Age' of decency and are now emerging out of the other side.

so true! the guidance i received from family, not just parents, helped me. i was still scared tulipless of mum finding out and getting a clout. i remember being 18 and getting absolutely blathered in town. 2 cops, one who knew the family, took me home, gave me a slap and drop me off 100m up the road and watched me stagger home. they watched me get in the house and waved to my mum, who then slapped me all over cos the she knew the police had brought me home.

I couldnt wait to get back to camp. altho i found out on the Monday while being beasted by the army staff that she had called my Sgt and told him about it... 4 days that beasting lasted.

Needless to say, the cops have never taken me home to my mums again!

[bogeyman]

if im honest, i was a little bit of scrote as a kid. never stole anything, never gobbed at adults, but had a few fights here and there etc. nothing major.

Well of course. I did a lot of things as a kid that make me cringe to think back on now. The casual cruelty to man and beast. The making of annoyance - just for the sake of it - just because we could.

Kids are basically pretty 'evil' in their natural state. By that, I don't mean that they are actually possessed by the Devil, or something, but that they don't know right from wrong.

Kids need parents (or other mentors) to instill the values of civilization, otherwise they are utter brutes, without care or thought for others.

It took thousands of years for humans to become civilized and respect each other. Maybe we had a 'Golden Age' of decency and are now emerging out of the other side.

[scooby]

(this may sound flippant, but it's not meant to be)

What we need is a proper, world threatening war where conscription is required.

This is exactly what i said in the office yesterday!

a massive world war... Drafting and national service. watch the immigrants run as they dont care about this country and watch the scrotes and peoples attitudes changes v quickly when they are forced to work for dole money!

[Moscow Mule]

it would sort out many issues in this country IMHO and also provide opportunities for those who would just find themselves on street corners doing drugs and stabbing people!

(this may sound flippant, but it's not meant to be)

What we need is a proper, world threatening war where conscription is required.

(this is flippant, and it's meant to be)

Nicky G will be along in a minute to say it's just around the corner...

[bogeyman]

Indeed. As much as I hate to quote Keanu Reeves.....

You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Never a truer word.

Mightily true.

[TheFaQQer]

With rights, come responsibilities - something parents seem to have forgotten about these days.

Indeed. As much as I hate to quote Keanu Reeves.....

You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Never a truer word.

[scooby]

It is typical of our times in this country Scooby.

Children are encouraged to believe that their will is the single most important thing.

Teachers are bullied and threatened by a dysfunctional state and by dysfunctional parents alike.

I'm not a great supporter of strikes, but if I had to back any group of strikers it would be the teachers.

Teachers are simply shat upon - by the establishment and by parents.

It's so utterly and terribly wrong. Without good, decent teachers, what sort of a world are we heading for?

if im honest, i was a little bit of scrote as a kid. never stole anything, never gobbed at adults, but had a few fights here and there etc. nothing major. i joined the army at 16 as there was nothing here for me, and i still stand by it being the best thing ever for me.

it gave me the right line and an attitude that i carry today. granted i know those whom it didnt work for, but i know it sorted a lot out.

i would happily support national service in this country. i learnt a trade and gained a purpose.

the only problem is that the army is now going soft. no more are they allowed to hit you, punish you, abuse you. all these things are needed to break you and making sure you think and do as you are ordered in times of pressure. current times and conflicts is a down side. there was only Bosnia when i was in, even Ireland was quite.

it would sort out many issues in this country IMHO and also provide opportunities for those who would just find themselves on street corners doing drugs and stabbing people!

[TheFaQQer]

It is typical of our times in this country Scooby.

Children are encouraged to believe that their will is the single most important thing.

Teachers are bullied and threatened by a dysfunctional state and by dysfunctional parents alike.

I'm not a great supporter of strikes, but if I had to back any group of strikers it would be the teachers.

Teachers are simply shat upon - by the establishment and by parents.

It's so utterly and terribly wrong. Without good, decent teachers, what sort of a world are we heading for?

WHS

[bogeyman]

this is oh so common!!! parents come in cos kids have been punished for being naughty, parents kick off, heads back down. its all about threatening to sue and human rights!

the only rights kids should have is the right to be loved and a right to be educated. the PC crowd have gone too far and will now struggle turning it round.

It is typical of our times in this country Scooby.

Children are encouraged to believe that their will is the single most important thing.

Teachers are bullied and threatened by a dysfunctional state and by dysfunctional parents alike.

I'm not a great supporter of strikes, but if I had to back any group of strikers it would be the teachers.

Teachers are simply shat upon - by the establishment and by parents.

It's so utterly and terribly wrong. Without good, decent teachers, what sort of a world are we heading for?

[Moscow Mule]

this is oh so common!!! parents come in cos kids have been punished for being naughty, parents kick off, heads back down. its all about threatening to sue and human rights!

the only rights kids should have is the right to be loved and a right to be educated. the PC crowd have gone too far and will now struggle turning it round.

With rights, come responsibilities - something parents seem to have forgotten about these days.

[scooby]

Oh for God's sake! That is a truly terrible, terrible story!

If the head of the school doesn't have the bottle (and the sense of duty) to stand by his staff then what are teachers supposed to do? Where's their support and backup?

It seems as though flipless (read F E C K LESS!) and irresponsible idiots (the ever burgeoning majority in the UK) can do what they please and be supported on all sides whereas the decent folk get trampled on at every turn.

Your mate made a good decision. An even better one would be moving abroad.

this is oh so common!!! parents come in cos kids have been punished for being naughty, parents kick off, heads back down. its all about threatening to sue and human rights!

the only rights kids should have is the right to be loved and a right to be educated. the PC crowd have gone too far and will now struggle turning it round.

[Moscow Mule]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - back in 5!


<Pedant>Aren't all convents only for girls?</Pedant>

Weirdo.

Good point, although I've just remembered they let boys into the 6th form (or year 13 or whatever it's called now).

[TheFaQQer]

She now teaches in an all girls convent school, where she's bored by the lack of rebellion in the kids.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - back in 5!


<Pedant>Aren't all convents only for girls?</Pedant>

[rootsnall]

Many, as their first proper job, as no one older is quite that niave...

My cousin is just doing his first job in a very rough school, he's finding some amusement in it all at the moment but 6 months in he's applying for private schools. He went for the extra year as a student lazy option, I'll give him 3 years teaching tops !