Running over scrotes

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Agreed - but that wouldn't be recognised in our flawed "innocent until proven guilty" judicial system.

Even though perhaps it should be - we all know that the scrotes hanging around the streets will be up to no good as soon as people's heads are turned.

Which bit is flawed? Because I am very much in favour of a presumption of innocence......

[chicane]

The scrote would probably have been back to carry out more of his own form of justice.

Agreed - but that wouldn't be recognised in our flawed "innocent until proven guilty" judicial system.

Even though perhaps it should be - we all know that the scrotes hanging around the streets will be up to no good as soon as people's heads are turned.

[PAH]

Don't believe what the plod tell you: there is no such thing as a plea of 'self-defence' in English law. If you find yourself in that situation, kill 'em, and always have a friend who's a pig farmer.

Isn't that a (not so urban) myth that pigs will eat and digest every part of a human body, including the bigger bones?

Wouldn't be anywhere as useful if all they do is scat out the skeleton!

[Moose423956]

No - he was allowed to defend himself.

What he was not allowed to do was to turn that form of defence into a form of attack that was out of proportion to the attack. Mounting the pavement and driving into him when he was in the bushes is out of proportion, hence the judgement.

This is why all cars should be banned.

Have you never heard the phrase "The best form of defence is attack"?

The scrote would probably have been back to carry out more of his own form of justice. He deserved what he got, IMHO.

[TheFaQQer]

He wasn't allowed to defend himself. Which goes against what we're being told by the police. I hope he appeals and gets let out. And the judge gets sacked.

No - he was allowed to defend himself.

What he was not allowed to do was to turn that form of defence into a form of attack that was out of proportion to the attack. Mounting the pavement and driving into him when he was in the bushes is out of proportion, hence the judgement.

This is why all cars should be banned.

[threaded]

He wasn't allowed to defend himself. Which goes against what we're being told by the police. I hope he appeals and gets let out. And the judge gets sacked.

Don't believe what the plod tell you: there is no such thing as a plea of 'self-defence' in English law. If you find yourself in that situation, kill 'em, and always have a friend who's a pig farmer.

[chicane]

He wasn't allowed to defend himself. Which goes against what we're being told by the police. I hope he appeals and gets let out. And the judge gets sacked.

The "correct" course of action in the eyes of the law would probably have been for him to flee from the scene once the scrote commenced the attack, then report criminal damage/attempted assuault/whatever to the local police station.

We all know that the attacker would have got off with a week's community service at worst, but even with this in mind it's difficult for the driver to justify his actions.

[Moose423956]

"You were entitled to be angry. You were entitled to be affronted. But you were not entitled to respond by wielding your vehicle as a weapon at him in the way you did."

So he should have said "Oy you, I'm angry and affronted. Please stop attacking me". That would have worked.

He should have made sure he killed the scrote, then it would have been worthwhile. His family will now have to move away from the area so they aren't subjected to revenge attacks.

He wasn't allowed to defend himself. Which goes against what we're being told by the police. I hope he appeals and gets let out. And the judge gets sacked.

[PAH]

See this is why you opt for trial by jury and plead not guilty:

Indeed. I remember seeing a documentary about an armed robber who said even if they caught him in a bank with a shotgun in his hand and a hole in the ceiling, he'd still plead not guilty.

Ironic thing is, by pleading not guilty, and having representatives argue your case, you're likely to get a more leaniant sentence than just pleading guilty from the outset. That's if the jury finds you guilty at all.

[mrdonuts]

i saw the family interviewed on tv, they appeared reasonably respectable, it sounds as though the neds ( and adult with knife) got what they deserved

[swamp]

You forgot to mention this:

"Armstrong mounted the pavement in his vehicle and drove it into him as he stood in nearby bushes."

You need to say you tried to swerve and avoid the individual whilst fleeing for your life. Can't really say that when you've just driven into the bushes.

[threaded]

E smashed me winder an glass wen in me eye, me foot slipped off the clutch yer onner.

I were orrified when I seen that I ad itt the poor bloke, I avent slept a wink since yer onner.

Absolutely, the number of times I've seen people who think telling the truth and being honest in court is the way to do things. Planks. They deserve to go to jail 'cause they're too stupid to be allowed out on their own.

[Diver]

E smashed me winder an glass wen in me eye, me foot slipped off the clutch yer onner.

I were orrified when I seen that I ad itt the poor bloke, I avent slept a wink since yer onner.

[chicane]

If that had been the knife-wielding scumbag being sentenced then he would no doubt have been let free because of the disruption to his home life of being sent to prison.

It's only fair.

[dude69]

See this is why you opt for trial by jury and plead not guilty:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7239461.stm

A motorist who ran down a man who confronted him with a knife and baton has been jailed for three years and eight months.
Stephen Armstrong, 47, was sitting in his people carrier in Glasgow when the 22-year-old man pulled out the weapons and smashed a window of the vehicle.

Father-of-eight Armstrong accelerated the people carrier into his attacker, leaving him seriously injured.


And hopefully have some good lawyers who can advise you NOT to plead guilty and get sent away for years.

Father-of-eight!?

If that had been the knife-wielding scumbag being sentenced then he would no doubt have been let free because of the disruption to his home life of being sent to prison.