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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostIf you cant beat em ...
It is this that worries me:
Our existing relationship with our employees ensures that they do not leave the project in a hurry.
Just what is "Our existing relationship"?
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HSMP now is a big profitable business for the Govt - they charge £400 to review your application, you don't get any appeals and if you get declined then you can't add a single piece of extra evidence for review. Govt is making big money from it, I am pretty certain of that - but again I think it is a better program than workpermits because people who go under it are checked better (income levels should be high in this country too, so they won't be doing IT jobs for £20k), plus it is hard for sweatshop to exploit them since they can change employer without getting new visa.
It's not easy to get under HSMP either.
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Originally posted by beaker View PostAs long as you remain economically active (ie make decent money) and do not claim any benefits then you are allowed to extend your stay, until you qualify for citizenship. At which point most antipodeans get their UK passport and bugger off back to their own countries, never to be seen again. The South Africans tend to stay though, because they'd prefer to live here than in SA. I am making mass generalisations you have probably noticed.
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Originally posted by beaker View PostI am on the HSMP. Supposedly the UK has skills shortages of educated people in all fields, so anyone who has a degree and makes above the average wage can get one. Lately you need to prove you understand English too. I am not aware of a cap on the number of HSMP workers in the UK.
As long as you remain economically active (ie make decent money) and do not claim any benefits then you are allowed to extend your stay, until you qualify for citizenship. At which point most antipodeans get their UK passport and bugger off back to their own countries, never to be seen again. The South Africans tend to stay though, because they'd prefer to live here than in SA. I am making mass generalisations you have probably noticed.
This company seems to offering a service (or exploiting) naiive HSMP visa holders who probably think its the best way for them to work in the UK. They are probably being paid a pittance and this company will take a cut of their earnings. My advice would be if you want decent HSMP people, go recruit them yourself.
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I am on the HSMP. Supposedly the UK has skills shortages of educated people in all fields, so anyone who has a degree and makes above the average wage can get one. Lately you need to prove you understand English too. I am not aware of a cap on the number of HSMP workers in the UK.
As long as you remain economically active (ie make decent money) and do not claim any benefits then you are allowed to extend your stay, until you qualify for citizenship. At which point most antipodeans get their UK passport and bugger off back to their own countries, never to be seen again. The South Africans tend to stay though, because they'd prefer to live here than in SA. I am making mass generalisations you have probably noticed.
This company seems to offering a service (or exploiting) naiive HSMP visa holders who probably think its the best way for them to work in the UK. They are probably being paid a pittance and this company will take a cut of their earnings. My advice would be if you want decent HSMP people, go recruit them yourself.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI take it that you are an HSMP applicant? Do you know how many of these are given out each year? Can anyone who meets the criteria automatically expect to obtain such a visa? or do they have a set number that they give out?
bona fide means in good faith, proper etc
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Originally posted by 2uk View PostThe email is simply offering HSMP people.This is points based ( abolished later this year ) and if the talent has HSMP , then they are already here legally. This is the most legal way out there.
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Originally posted by 2uk View PostThe email is simply offering HSMP people.This is points based ( abolished later this year ) and if the talent has HSMP , then they are already here legally. This is the most legal way out there.
I don't mean cheaper. I am certainly not. I mean more motivated/ambitious. This is a great thing.
The thing with the large Indian company exploits "intra-company-transfer" schemes and not the HSMP.
Not sure I understand the bona fide sentence , but then I can't be bothered ot read all posts in full
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Originally posted by 2uk View PostThe email is simply offering HSMP people.This is points based ( abolished later this year ) and if the talent has HSMP , then they are already here legally. This is the most legal way out there.
I don't mean cheaper. I am certainly not. I mean more motivated/ambitious. This is a great thing.
The thing with the large Indian company exploits "intra-company-transfer" schemes and not the HSMP.
Not sure I understand the bona fide sentence , but then I can't be bothered ot read all posts in full
bona fide means in good faith, proper etc
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