Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke
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Originally posted by AtW View PostFine, then you don't need to buy a gun, you can't however decide for others - some people don't need cars, so they can avoid associated risks.
On the whole I think the balance is about right here - Tony Martin laid booby traps and lay in wait for intruders then shot them in the back - he was convicted of murder but it was reduced to manslaughter on appeal and he's out already - not bad for a guy who'd already had his firearms licence revoked for firing at people.
The last thing I want is the balance shifting in the US direction - certainly not the concealed weapons malarky.
Unfortunately the only way to find out would be to try it, and if I'm right, a lot more people will die while we find out.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostGuns can save your life and most importantly - they can let you live life without fear: being afraid of criminals is a very bad thing to have.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostEvery year 3500 people die from car accidents, cars ain't banned - thats one 7/7 every week and everyone accepts it. How many gun deaths were happening due to legal gun ownership until that tragic incident in 1996 when that crazy guy shot kids in school?
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Originally posted by zeitghostA. K. A. "Collateral Damage"...
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Originally posted by zeitghost
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostAtw - I totally agree about those signs - I just don't agree about the idea of giving everyone firearms for self-defence - I just don't think it would work.
Thing is you don't need 100% of population armed, even if 10% armed this means that in 1 in 10 cases criminals will face guns, does not sound big risk? Well, think different - probability of criminal AVOIDING gun conflict in this case would be 0.9, however criminals don't do crimes once and that's it, they do mroe than one crime, so in 2nd instance, probability that they will still avoid gun conflict is 0.9*0.9=0.81, 10 crimes and they would only have 30% chance to avoid being shot. Add to this publicity for each case and they will quickly learn how to do something else than attack people, they will probably steal more cars etc, but not when owner is around.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWell, it the job of the police to deal with those poeple - if they are armed and resist then get them shot. Frankly, that's what police should do, not put signs everywhere - "WARNING: Burglars are known to operate in this area - take care!" FFS, anyone who thought up of this warning should be fired because such warning means police is not doing their job!
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWell, it the job of the police to deal with those poeple - if they are armed and resist then get them shot. Frankly, that's what police should do, not put signs everywhere - "WARNING: Burglars are known to operate in this area - take care!" FFS, anyone who thought up of this warning should be fired because such warning means police is not doing their job!
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post...however what you conveniently ignore is that the hard core are probably already armed anyway!
Good point - and all too true - unfortunately.
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Originally posted by AtW View Post.......at the very least this country should allow electro-shockers, ffs, even CS gas is not allowed in this country, just why the heck?
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Considering the type of daft thick chavs we seem to specialise in in certain areas of this country I think it's good they can't get CS gas and shockers.
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...however what you conveniently ignore is that the hard core are probably already armed anyway!
Good point - and all too true - unfortunately.
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