Reply to: Does one believe in the death penalty?

[Joe Black]

And the guildford four probably wouldnt have been topped if the current length of time is anything to go by on the American death row.

Wow, that's a comfort. If ever I get wrongly convicted I can still sleep at night because some bumbling bureaucracy could mean it might be years before they do the deed itself.

In the meantime all I need to do is ensure mine is a human interest story which somehow manages to get press attention...

[Mailman]

Why not give people the choice once convicted of murder i.e. Fred West. Harold Shipman by leaving a loose bit of rope around.

Yeah, thats a good idea isnt it...why we are at it...why dont we let people decide if they will go to court or not!

And I don't believe in the death penalty because of the way the Guildford 4, etc where framed by the police. If the media blows up a crime and they do choose particular crimes to focus on, then it's likely the preputrators will get the death penalty if convicted.

And the guildford four probably wouldnt have been topped if the current length of time is anything to go by on the American death row.

Also, just because someone is found guilty of murder doesnt automatically mean they will get the death sentence, although Im pretty sure all those guilty of murder are all very nice, law abiding citizens!

Personally I have no problems with those scum who murdered the father last year who challenged them when they smashed the windscreen on his wifes car. Its scum like this that must be removed...PERMANENTLY...from society.

You do the crime, you face the consequences of your actions.

Now, as for that Minority Report thing...there might be something in that!

Mailman

[Mailman]

Why not give people the choice once convicted of murder i.e. Fred West. Harold Shipman by leaving a loose bit of rope around.

And I don't believe in the death penalty because of the way the Guildford 4, etc where framed by the police. If the media blows up a crime and they do choose particular crimes to focus on, then it's likely the preputrators will get the death penalty if convicted.

And the guildford four probably wouldnt have been topped if the current length of time is anything to go by on the American death row.

Personally I have no problems with those scum who murdered the father last year who challenged them when they smashed the windscreen on his wifes car. Its scum like this that must be removed...PERMANENTLY...from society.

You do the crime, you face the consequences of your actions.

Now, as for that Minority Report thing...there might be something in that!

Mailman

[KathyWoolfe]

Why not give people the choice once convicted of murder i.e. Fred West. Harold Shipman by leaving a loose bit of rope around.

That way we have a high chance of getting rid of them, no one has to be an executioner and the taxpayer doesn't have to pay for a lifetime in prison if they decide to take the choice.

And I don't believe in the death penalty because of the way the Guildford 4, etc where framed by the police. If the media blows up a crime and they do choose particular crimes to focus on, then it's likely the preputrators will get the death penalty if convicted.

If I remember correctly, Fred West did commit suicide in prison. Leaving his wife to carry the can (so to speak).

[KathyWoolfe]

And heaps of abuse.

well, you heap abuse on others.....

[SueEllen]

Of course your ignorance has stopped you from seeing what Im trying to say here.

If a person is going to murder you, they are going to murder you end of story. No laws or possible consequences (or lack thereof) is going to stop them from murdering you.

Slapping them with a wet rag, or your wit, isnt the solution but removing them permanently from society is.

Now, perhaps there would be no need for the death sentence if life in prison ment exactly that.

Mailman

Why not give people the choice once convicted of murder i.e. Fred West. Harold Shipman by leaving a loose bit of rope around.

That way we have a high chance of getting rid of them, no one has to be an executioner and the taxpayer doesn't have to pay for a lifetime in prison if they decide to take the choice.

And I don't believe in the death penalty because of the way the Guildford 4, etc where framed by the police. If the media blows up a crime and they do choose particular crimes to focus on, then it's likely the preputrators will get the death penalty if convicted.

[BrilloPad]

Of course your ignorance has stopped you from seeing what Im trying to say here.

If a person is going to murder you, they are going to murder you end of story. No laws or possible consequences (or lack thereof) is going to stop them from murdering you.

Slapping them with a wet rag, or your wit, isnt the solution but removing them permanently from society is.

Now, perhaps there would be no need for the death sentence if life in prison ment exactly that.

Mailman

Is this heading towards a minority report type thing?

[BrilloPad]

Mailman. Share your fears, we can help you. There's no judgement here.

Dont do it mailman. I tried it once on CUK and I can assure you I got no help. Plenty of judgement. And heaps of abuse.

[Mailman]

Finally it all comes down to pity.

I bet you lie in bed at night bashing your forehead into your pillow, crying at the pitiful hand life has dealt you.

Why so angry Mailman. Share your fears, we can help you. There's no judgement here.

Of course your ignorance has stopped you from seeing what Im trying to say here.

If a person is going to murder you, they are going to murder you end of story. No laws or possible consequences (or lack thereof) is going to stop them from murdering you.

Slapping them with a wet rag, or your wit, isnt the solution but removing them permanently from society is.

Now, perhaps there would be no need for the death sentence if life in prison ment exactly that.

Mailman

[Pondlife]

As a good example, think back to the last time you were in a true rage (maybe this morning in your car on the way to work! ) and think about it for a second. I bet you will find that there was very little that could have stopped you while you were in that state of absolute rage.

Mailman

Finally it all comes down to pity.

I bet you lie in bed at night bashing your forehead into your pillow, crying at the pitiful hand life has dealt you.

Why so angry Mailman. Share your fears, we can help you. There's no judgement here.

[KathyWoolfe]

Indeed. Take off and nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure we kill all the bad people.

Together with all the good ones. (I'm sure there ARE some)

[oracleslave]

As a good example,

Is this good example still coming or was that it

[Mailman]

Okay, it looks as if you acknowledge that the death penalty (“loping someone’s head off’) doesn’t act as a deterrent. Was that meant to bust the myth you mention?

Its pointless having toothless laws that do nothing. At least with the death penalty you will remove the worst of the worst offenders from society...unlike what you have at the moment with life sentences (where they get out after 5 minutes).

As a good example, think back to the last time you were in a true rage (maybe this morning in your car on the way to work! ) and think about it for a second. I bet you will find that there was very little that could have stopped you while you were in that state of absolute rage.

Mailman

[Joe Black]

Kill 'em all, it's the only way to be sure.

HTH.

Indeed. Take off and nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure we kill all the bad people.

[TimberWolf]

This is a myth. If someone is going to lop your head off they are going to lop your head off regardless of what the penalty for lopping your head off is!

Just as heads hanging on the tower bridge didn't stop traitors trying to sell the country to the Catholics, so the same goes for the death sentence, someone isn't going to be more likely to kill you because of it.

Okay, it looks as if you acknowledge that the death penalty (“loping someone’s head off’) doesn’t act as a deterrent. Was that meant to bust the myth you mention?

What kind of work do you do in IT?