Reply to: Just to add to the doom, two big IR35 losses

[nullfork]

He was represented by Accountax
tim

So presumably he won't have to personally pay any of the £99k back then? Presuming he's taken Accountax IR35 Guarantee?

That actually sounds quite tempting, yeah fair enough it's around 1k up front, but then you don't need to worry about 35.

Stuart!

[tim123]

I was very heavily involved in f4j - 4th person arrested in the cause. I still speak to the head honcho alot - Matt O'Connor.

people seems happy to have their civil liberties eroded. as long as they personally are okay no-one cares. all it requires for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing...

my advice - leave it - not worth it.

Yep and the MITS can sympathise with F4J.

If you try to get the sympathy of a normal employed person about the tax rates applicable to someone grossing 100K, they will (understandably) tell you to Foxtrot Oscar.

tim

[Archangel]

Yeah direct action, or at least make the public more aware of it, we should highlight what crooks the HRMC and goverment are. Im all for it !

Yeah! Lets all drive to London in our Mercs, BMWs and Porsches, and protest wearing our Paul Smith suits that we pay too much tax on our £150,000 a year income. That will get the public on our side, especially those nurses/coppers/teachers etc etc

[threaded]

Yeah direct action, or at least make the public more aware of it, we should highlight what crooks the HRMC and goverment are. Im all for it !

I took direct action. I fscked off to another country. Now Denmark is #1 in the world for eGov and the UK is fscked in that regard. There's probably only the DVLA that works and that's only cause I nip over to Swansea for a few days each quarter to keep 'em on the straight and level. Now if I was to stop doing that it'd go down the Swanee too.

threaded in "but they pay really really well" mode

[beaker]

all it requires for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing...

my advice - leave it - not worth it.

Uh, Brillo are you contradicting yourself here or are you just over the whole IR35 thing?

[threaded]

what if instead of coughing up £99k he buggers off to some other country ?
what can hmrc do ?

They ask the other country to collect the tax for them.

Which they generally do. There are very few places that don't have some treaty with the UK in this regard.

Always of great amusement to me that people think places like XXXX are about watching what the other lots soldiers are up to. Nah, that'd be about 0.1% of what they do. The vast amount of it is tracing the other lots tax avoiders for them, and the other lot do likewise in return.

HTH

[BrilloPad]

My neighbour who had probs with the rev just declared he was bankrupt to avoid paying, he is now a caretaker at a local school.

Its true and fact HRMC and IR35 recks lifes IMO, how can the government get away with treating us both as business and then as a hidden employee, its one or the other ffs, this never seems to be mentioned in the cases.

Cant we take more direct action like the 'Dads for justice' group, should try and highlight the fact the governments wants to bite the cherry twice.

HRMC you are daffodils

I was very heavily involved in f4j - 4th person arrested in the cause. I still speak to the head honcho alot - Matt O'Connor.

people seems happy to have their civil liberties eroded. as long as they personally are okay no-one cares. all it requires for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing...

my advice - leave it - not worth it.

[Bumfluff]

Great plan Batman. I'll just go climb the BT tower with a flag on my back.

Contractors For Justice. Free the IR35 chains for the lone business man.

Yeah direct action, or at least make the public more aware of it, we should highlight what crooks the HRMC and goverment are. Im all for it !

[pisces]

Great plan Batman. I'll just go climb the BT tower with a flag on my back.

Contractors For Justice. Free the IR35 chains for the lone business man.

[Bumfluff]

My neighbour who had probs with the rev just declared he was bankrupt to avoid paying, he is now a caretaker at a local school.

Its true and fact HRMC and IR35 recks lifes IMO, how can the government get away with treating us both as business and then as a hidden employee, its one or the other ffs, this never seems to be mentioned in the cases.

Cant we take more direct action like the 'Dads for justice' group, should try and highlight the fact the governments wants to bite the cherry twice.

HRMC you are c*nts

[Xenophon]

Claim poverty and negotiate a payment plan.

£99k at £100 per month would take 82.5 years to pay back.

[tim123]

Of course there's no guarantee that HMRC will get this money. Especially if he had a coke/hi-class call girl habit and is now skint.

It would be very surprising (though I agree not impossible) for someone who's been a 100K pa contractor for the last 6 years not to have a spare 100k of equity in their house.

They will take this, long before they accept that you can't pay.

tim

[oracleslave]

Of course there's no guarantee that HMRC will get this money. Especially if he had a coke/hi-class call girl habit and is now skint.

Does that mean jail time?

[pisces]

That probably includes investigation costs, surcharge penalties and interest, which are going to be hefty on three years of unpaid tax based on a high turnover. So that figure isn't that surprising.

Of course there's no guarantee that HMRC will get this money. Especially if he had a coke/hi-class call girl habit and is now skint.

[AlfredJPruffock]

14. Mr Bessell, when asked if Miss Tooze could have decided that she did not want a substitute, replied “absolutely”.

Cos Im a Substitute for another guy
Its a genuine problem
But you wont try
To work it out at all - you just pass it by

Substitute - like Brown for Blair
Substitute - At leat I'll get my Tax return done