Reply to: Speed Cameras / Speeding tickets

[threaded]

Oh if you can do a speed course deffo go for it, the objective is no points on your license. Bear in mind they aren't always offered though.

To pay £1000 he/she probably didn't prepare for it and stood in court saying i dunno mate, or i wasn't me honest guvnor, despite all the evidence proving that it was.

It's worth going through the pepipoo site anyway just to find out what your rights are.

I always find it hilarious the numbers of people sentenced who say something like "I didn't do it, therefore how can they possibly find me guilty?" with some sort of bizarre expectation that being honest and telling the truth is enough. Planks.

I even know, not speed camera related, of a Scottish policewoman who ended up in jail primarily due to that kind of attitude. Which is a perfect example of someone who should have known better.

Remember there are people on this board who have a far better understanding of how these speed cameras operate, and what their capabilities are, than any 'expert' witness the courts are likely to dredge up, and it's not even our field!

[EternalOptimist]

Petrol should be £10 per liter, but diesel at current level

What a silly suggestion. This would make beer cheaper than petrol, its difficult enough trying to avoid getting done for drink driving without having the car p1ssed up as well

[BrilloPad]

http://www.pepipoo.com/

Good site.

Here is another one :-

http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/how.htm

[Ardesco]

No thanks am not that crazy - don't have the time and can't be bothered, as someone else said I can opt for the speed course, so will do that.

btw: I know someone who went to court, and did end up paying £1000 fine and 3 points instead of the £60

Oh if you can do a speed course deffo go for it, the objective is no points on your license. Bear in mind they aren't always offered though.

To pay £1000 he/she probably didn't prepare for it and stood in court saying i dunno mate, or i wasn't me honest guvnor, despite all the evidence proving that it was.

It's worth going through the pepipoo site anyway just to find out what your rights are.

[SandyDown]

Ask to see piccies (Say you aren't sure who was driving and would like to see the piccies to jog your memory).

If it is the first offense you can prolly get it taken to court without worrying about it too much. Prove that you don't earn much and they will charge you £60 fine + £15 costs. The best thing about taking it to court is that the scamera partnership doesn't get any money. If everybody took it to court the scamera partnerships would go out of business in no time.

Also if you leave it until the last minute to send back the details and don't fill in the NIP, but write them a letter instead there is a chance it won't go to court anyway.

Have a look at http://www.pepipoo.com/ for lots of info about it, and the main thing to remember is that the DPA does not apply in court.

There is a good chance that prosecution in court will not have any evidence and in front of a magistrate they will say that DPA prevents them from letting you see the video of you speeding. Magistrates will buy this because they don't know tulip about the law, but that is in effect a get out of jail free clause because you can tell the magistrate with disdain that DPA does not apply in court as you are sure the prosecutor should now after XX years studying and practising law. Suggest that perjury is a very serious crime and does the prosecutor realise that lying to a magistrate in court could get him/her locked up.

Then ask the magistrate to dismiss the case due to lack of evidence, do all you can to refuse a new date stating that the prosecution has had x amount of time to prepare and only asked for a new date to be set when you blew thier case out of the water.


Can be a very satisfying experiance

No thanks am not that crazy - don't have the time and can't be bothered, as someone else said I can opt for the speed course, so will do that.

btw: I know someone who went to court, and did end up paying £1000 fine and 3 points instead of the £60

[Ardesco]

Ask to see piccies (Say you aren't sure who was driving and would like to see the piccies to jog your memory).

If it is the first offense you can prolly get it taken to court without worrying about it too much. Prove that you don't earn much and they will charge you £60 fine + £15 costs. The best thing about taking it to court is that the scamera partnership doesn't get any money. If everybody took it to court the scamera partnerships would go out of business in no time.

Also if you leave it until the last minute to send back the details and don't fill in the NIP, but write them a letter instead there is a chance it won't go to court anyway.

Have a look at http://www.pepipoo.com/ for lots of info about it, and the main thing to remember is that the DPA does not apply in court.

There is a good chance that prosecution in court will not have any evidence and in front of a magistrate they will say that DPA prevents them from letting you see the video of you speeding. Magistrates will buy this because they don't know tulip about the law, but that is in effect a get out of jail free clause because you can tell the magistrate with disdain that DPA does not apply in court as you are sure the prosecutor should now after XX years studying and practising law. Suggest that perjury is a very serious crime and does the prosecutor realise that lying to a magistrate in court could get him/her locked up.

Then ask the magistrate to dismiss the case due to lack of evidence, do all you can to refuse a new date stating that the prosecution has had x amount of time to prepare and only asked for a new date to be set when you blew thier case out of the water.


Can be a very satisfying experiance

[BrilloPad]

Chinese meal then it is

sweet & sour squirrel?

[AtW]

Chinese meal then it is

[BrilloPad]

Brown too

What is all this liter thing? Don't you mean litre?

Where is that spelling thinbg?

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there we go.

[AtW]

Milan would love that.

Brown too

[BrilloPad]

Petrol should be £10 per liter, but diesel at current level

Milan would love that.

[AtW]

what do you think the figure would reduce to if a 25mph limit was inposed?

Good question. I don't know. What I know however is that 25 mph vs 30 mph won't make much difference to journey time in the cities, but it will certainly reduce casualties, if it's 100+ a year then I think it is worth it.

[AtW]

20mph would be better. Or put petrol to £5/litre.

Petrol should be £10 per liter, but diesel at current level

[Troll]

I think they need to make it 25 mph in build-up areas, unless maybe at night - 5 mph do not sound much but they will make good difference in terms of injuries, people forget that in the UK (despite good road safety) 3500 people die every year from car accidents, that's 7/7 happening every week.

what do you think the figure would reduce to if a 25mph limit was inposed?

[BrilloPad]

I think they need to make it 25 mph in build-up areas, unless maybe at night - 5 mph do not sound much but they will make good difference in terms of injuries, people forget that in the UK (despite good road safety) 3500 people die every year from car accidents, that's 7/7 happening every week.

20mph would be better. Or put petrol to £5/litre.