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Previously on "Yet more data goes missing..."

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
    Communism and the soviet experiment might have worked, and would warrant re-trying, especially in Africa.
    Totally testicular.

    Communism relies on people sacrificing their own selfish interests for the good of the many. As people are reluctant to do this, they have to be made to do it for their own good. And so the terror starts.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    That's a devious trick!

    Certainly one to remember though...
    The definitive collection of key TPD posts is on my website, as a record of who really got the post

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    BrilloPad deleted a post in TPD this morning, so it looks like he got 50000 rather than me getting it.

    HTH.
    That's a devious trick!

    Certainly one to remember though...

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by miffy View Post
    Whats going to go missing next?
    BrilloPad deleted a post in TPD this morning, so it looks like he got 50000 rather than me getting it.

    HTH.

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  • wendigo100
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    In the Good Things He Did column, Stalin did industrialise the USSR.

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by threaded View Post
    Oh dear. You think the peasants had any say in the Russian revolution? So sad. Can tell you went to one of those political indoctrination centres known as a Comprehensive school.

    If anything it is a minor point that the peasants who left the land still believing they owned it, and those that farmed the land, believing they owned the land they farmed.

    What really happened is the Russians were losing to the Germans in WW1. It was a war of attrition and the Russians couldn't afford it. There was a political upheaval in a couple of key cities and the communists grabbed the chance offered. That's all. If another group had been quicker off the mark, history would be quite different.
    What do you think todays proles would do without football?

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  • BrowneIssue
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    Originally posted by threaded View Post
    ... What really happened is the Russians were losing to the Germans in WW1. It was a war of attrition and the Russians couldn't afford it. There was a political upheaval in a couple of key cities and the communists grabbed the chance offered.
    If it had stopped there, then soviet Russia would probably have been a fascinating success.

    But, just as in the French Revolution, it didn't stop there.

    Stalin took control, got rid of the revolutionaries and what followed was Stalinism, not Communism.

    BTW, the Romanovs were already changing when the revolution occurred. They had been made to see the light and were making serious improvements. They had to be gotten rid of symbolically and 'just in case'. As per Charles I's execution - just in case.

    Communism and the soviet experiment might have worked, and would warrant re-trying, especially in Africa. But 'communism' is a bad word as it is an alternative to very rich capitalists getting richer so we're not allowed to try it.

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  • threaded
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    Rubbish. Happy peasants do not a revolution make!
    Oh dear. You think the peasants had any say in the Russian revolution? So sad. Can tell you went to one of those political indoctrination centres known as a Comprehensive school.

    If anything it is a minor point that the peasants who left the land still believing they owned it, and those that farmed the land, believing they owned the land they farmed.

    What really happened is the Russians were losing to the Germans in WW1. It was a war of attrition and the Russians couldn't afford it. There was a political upheaval in a couple of key cities and the communists grabbed the chance offered. That's all. If another group had been quicker off the mark, history would be quite different.

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by threaded View Post
    You really believe that? Or are you playing at being an irritant?

    The people who think he was a great leader learned to think that way out of fear. Jews during the Spanish Inquisition had religious experiences where they saw Jesus. Not too much difference IMHO.

    Under the Romanov's food production and life expectation for the poor increased, whereas under communism it fell dramatically.
    Rubbish. Happy peasants do not a revolution make!

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  • threaded
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    To many, he was. If you think collective rather than individual, then he was a great leader.

    The Russians under the Romanovs were in a damn site pooier state than under Communism.
    You really believe that? Or are you playing at being an irritant?

    The people who think he was a great leader learned to think that way out of fear. Jews during the Spanish Inquisition had religious experiences where they saw Jesus. Not too much difference IMHO.

    Under the Romanov's food production and life expectation for the poor increased, whereas under communism it fell dramatically.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Is there any data not missing?

    Might as well stick it all on the www and be done with it!

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  • daviejones
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    To many, he was. If you think collective rather than individual, then he was a great leader.

    The Russians under the Romanovs were in a damn site pooier state than under Communism.
    Pooier?

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    3? A lot more than that. And worse of all many people (mainly old) somehow regard Stalin as great leader
    To many, he was. If you think collective rather than individual, then he was a great leader.

    The Russians under the Romanovs were in a damn site pooier state than under Communism.

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  • Board Game Geek
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    And worse of all many people (mainly old) somehow regard Stalin as great leader
    I somehow suspect that those who believed he was a great leader were not the ones being carted in to gulags for a one-way working holiday.

    It's all a matter of perspective.

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  • Board Game Geek
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    Actually, I believe the UK Government to be the best place in the world for the protection of data.

    Eg, consider this.

    Take Switzerland. The banks are paranoid to an extreme, and the data centres are all guarded by gun-toting pew-pew security guards, biological nerve toxins, killer robots, attack hellhounds and trip wire laser cannons.

    But, it IS possible to get through all this (Tom Cruise seems to do it really easily in Mission Impossible films, so it cannot be that hard).

    Once you are through, the data is at your criminal masterminds' mercy and exploitation.

    Now we head to the UK.

    After parking round the back of the HMRC offices late one night, you walk past the vandalised CCTV, in to the foyer of the building past the sleeping security guard, head up to the data cente, type "password" as a lucky guess in to the door security system, and bingo you're in the Data Ops room.

    What do you find ?

    S.F.A

    Why, because the 'tards have lost it all, that's why.

    There's absolutely nothing there to nick.

    Pure bl00dy genius if you ask me.

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