Reply to: Badly behaved pimp….

[BrowneIssue]

look at this way, at least someone talks to you

True, there is that.

[SueEllen]

They were all talking to a nutcase 'female'.

Carpet.. Shoes.....

[johhnysalad]

I had an agent so peed off with me because I wouldn't sign a contract without having it reviewed by B&C that he went all mental on me. Sent me the following email;

There is no need to pass the buck on to me for your dishonesty. I had serious doubts about you when you started using ‘classic’ delaying tactics so I checked you out. A friend of mine from another agency called you at 3pm this afternoon and you said that you are on the market and you don’t have any offers on the table. The ****** market is a very small community and you have now blacklisted yourself from two of the most established ***** recruitment agencies in the UK, as well as all of their clients. Not a smart move!

He was 100% right, his mate had rung me, talked about another role which I wasn't interested in. The funniest thing was, a day earlier I got an alert from JobServer about this position (the one the guy had gone postal about) - advertised by the same pimp. Once confronted, he said he had to keep his options open, as nothing was signed up. I suggested that me having a discussion with another pimp about another role was some of the same stuff

Funniest thing was, I got a written apology and an a written assurance that no "blacklist" existed (from MD). Oh, and I signed with them, on the condition that I never hear from the tulip again

[DodgyAgent]

Touche! However...

... in my experience of 12 years talking to recruitment agents I have come to the conclusions:

- most never knew their father;
- a very, very few are nice people (and 2 of the 3 nice ones I have met are no longer in recruitment);
- almost all are utterly incompetent and know nothing about IT;
- a small minority are barking mad nutters and some of those are female;
- a small minority are barking mad nutters and some of those are male.

Despite my story about a female loon agent, I can do similar stories about male loon agents. I have been shafted right royally within the last 6 months by a male agent and screwed up by a female agent. And I don't mean in a sexual way in either case.

Differentiating such scum by gender is a pointless exercise. It is not their gender determining their actions, it is their lack of favourable personality attributes.

So there's not much point us fighting amongst ourselves trying to determine whether individual agents should go to Dante's 6th level of Hell or Dante's 7th level of Hell based upon their gender. Send 'em all to the 7th and be done with it.

look at this way, at least someone talks to you

[BrowneIssue]

They were all talking to a nutcase 'female'.

Touche! However...

... in my experience of 12 years talking to recruitment agents I have come to the conclusions:

- most never knew their father;
- a very, very few are nice people (and 2 of the 3 nice ones I have met are no longer in recruitment);
- almost all are utterly incompetent and know nothing about IT;
- a small minority are barking mad nutters and some of those are female;
- a small minority are barking mad nutters and some of those are male.

Despite my story about a female loon agent, I can do similar stories about male loon agents. I have been shafted right royally within the last 6 months by a male agent and screwed up by a female agent. And I don't mean in a sexual way in either case.

Differentiating such scum by gender is a pointless exercise. It is not their gender determining their actions, it is their lack of favourable personality attributes.

So there's not much point us fighting amongst ourselves trying to determine whether individual agents should go to Dante's 6th level of Hell or Dante's 7th level of Hell based upon their gender. Send 'em all to the 7th and be done with it.

[tay]

They were all talking to a nutcase 'female'.

[Ruprect]

I had about 3 this summer when I refused to discuss the role further once I realised the rate was carp. One was unable to understand that someone politely saying this is an end to the conversation and putting the phone down, was an end to the conversation and not a problem with my mobile.

They were ALL men.

They were all recruitment consultants.

HTH

[SueEllen]

I don't seem to get experiences like this ... are you sure it's not you?

I had about 3 this summer when I refused to discuss the role further once I realised the rate was carp. One was unable to understand that someone politely saying this is an end to the conversation and putting the phone down, was an end to the conversation and not a problem with my mobile.

They were ALL men.

[wendigo100]

Worst one I had was a noddyney rude girl who ended the conversation with "I'll SEE you in 6 months when you don't have a job anymore", I simply refused to divulge information on where I was and who my manager was .... a wise choice in these times.

To be honest I'm sick to death of agents after 10 years in IT I see them getting more deceptive and thicker.

Women seem to be the worst sometimes .. they just get emotional and spout out abuse down venom down the phone although some blokes will play the treachourous snake also .. I once got an agent almost crying in sympathy for me when I was on the bench .. then he wrapped up the converstion with "where are you interviewing ?" - scum the lot of them, I wonder how these people aren't scared of being next to useless in the real world.

Roll on the great depression and weed out the scum.

I don't seem to get experiences like this ... are you sure it's not you?

[tay]

There is an agent at Huntress, she is hilarious. A really good sort, we have good old natters all the time. BUt she is a damn good egg. She has subtly asked me for leads, and I have given them to her, as she is funny, has a good old natter about stuff before openly but subtly asked questions to get leads. She hasnt placed me with a role, but thats more due to bad luck and timing. Buty I do know for 100% sure that next time I am in a position to chose an agency to fill a role the client may have.. she would be top of the list.
Outstanding.

[NotAllThere]

Yes, but at lower rates. And the work isn't so interesting.

[eliquant]

Sometimes when permies get fired in hard times they bring in contractors during hard times.

[Ruprect]

Roll on the great depression and weed out the scum.

Possibly the most stupid thing you'll hear a contractor say.

[eliquant]

That's odd from Hoaxley ususally they just try and get names and places of job interviews that you are going to these days never abusive.

They used to be bad like 10 years ago though they're better now.

[BrowneIssue]

... Women seem to be the worst sometimes .. they just get emotional and spout out abuse down venom down the phone...

I had one from Huxley Associates a few years back who would not understand why I had applied for a contract a long way from home. I explained how some contractors move or live away for contracts. She wasn't having it. I talked her through my CV showing how I've been all over the place. She couldn't comprehend why I did it and would not believe me. This went on and on until I got sick of it. In the end I said "You're clearly don't believe me and are not going to put me forward so I'll stop wasting your time" and hung up.

She phoned back and my wife answered. She gave my wife an earful for me having hung up on her. My wife explained why I had hung up, that we cheerfully move around the country and use my contracting as a way of seeing different places. The agent got abusive "why do you put up with it?" and "what do you do then?" and "don't you care about what he is doing to your children's education?" and "why don't you have kids?" ... and that was the one that made my wife say "I'm not answerable to you" and hang up on her.

Then the mobile phone goes ... more abuse, this time to me about my wife's rudeness. So I hang up. Then the land-line rings again, abuse left on the answerphone this time. Then the mobile again.

And then the emails started.

In the end I just put a block against her email address on my mail server so anything from her bounces without me knowing.

Jeez.

Absolutely mental.

(I think she works for Hays now ... quick check on Google ... then LinkedIn, yep same one, at Hays Banking now. Mentalist.)